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Subject: Ufotalk-Time
> (Logging at 11-AUG-1999 18:12)
> ROYCE3:Royce3> I always thought the was British.
> KOLTA:Kolta> I could be wrong, but I do not think so. > ROYCE3:Royce3> I was told that a long time ago. Not true? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Oh, well, then I stand corrected.
> KOLTA:Kolta> Maybe I am wrong then. > ROYCE3:Royce3> I was wrong once before. <grin> > ROYCE3:Royce3> Anyway, he is a nice sort of fellow and quite bright.
> KOLTA:Kolta> We will find out. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes. > ISLEANDERS> is pittsburgh a ufo haven for people who like em (UFOs)
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Gee, at this point, I don't even want you to ask. > KOLTA:Kolta> He is very nice and intelligent > ROYCE3:Royce3> Isleander, i would not say that. But the UFO/ET Forum has
been a very > ROYCE3:Royce3> efficient and educational group for UFO buffs. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Researchers. > ROYCE3:Royce3> One will seldom see a more well run group.
> KOLTA:Kolta> It has people from many different backgrounds > ISLEANDERS> keeps my interest (ufo Talk) > ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, it has been a big help to have a core of people to
help the chats along. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Now, with people like yourself, Isleander, we are developing Internet regulars. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Although you aren't geographically close, you are certainly
one of us. > ROYCE3:Royce3> That is the magic of the internet. > KOLTA:Kolta> Yes it is > ISLEANDERS> thatz kewl royce
> ROYCE3:Royce3> As time goes by, I hope that more Internet oriented projects will develop. > ROYCE3:Royce3> In fact, I'm sure that will be the case.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> In the not too distant future, we will launch a website. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Isleander, are you interested in crop circles?
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Personally, I have had quite an interest in them. > ROYCE3:Royce3> But I think that a lot of the research is being slowed by the lack of money.
> ISLEANDERS> yes they are unique but i also think their hoaxed > KOLTA:Kolta> All of them? > ISLEANDERS> or most probably are? > KOLTA:Kolta> Why?
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, I am sure a lot of them are. However, I'm pretty certain that a lot aren't. > ** BEKUS just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (4 members now) **
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello Bekus, welcome. > BEKUS:Efrayim> Hi folks > ROYCE3:Royce3> Bekus, we are discussing crop circles, since Stuart Dike of the UK will be joining us this coming Tuesday.
> ISLEANDERS> discovery show where they had a contest making them (crop circles) > BEKUS:Efrayim> cool > ROYCE3:Royce3> Dike runs the Crop Circle Connector Site in the UK.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Yep - I've been there. > ROYCE3:Royce3> The hoaxers of crop circles have had quite a good time over the past nine months or so.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> They have been featured in a number of TV specials designed to debunk the whole matter. > ISLEANDERS> im keeping a open mind about it thou
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Do you think there are crop circles out there that cannot be replicated by human effort? > ROYCE3:Royce3> And there are a lot of "true believers" among the crop
circle folks. > KOLTA:Kolta> But, there are ways of telling the hoaxes from the real things. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, supposedly, a genuine crop circle has stems that are bent but never broken.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Furthermore, genetic changes supposedly take place in the stems of genuine crop circles. > ISLEANDERS> thats the problem with the ufo shows you can tell if the
producer is for or against them (1-Sided) > BEKUS:Efrayim> How many broken stems are required to disqualify a crop circle? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Unfortunately, I'm not sure that a lot of so-called experts
haven't been fooled on at least a few occasions. > ISLEANDERS> experts never are neutral are they? > ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm not sure Bekus. I wonder how much careful evaluation takes place.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Have the crop circles been categorized according to these genetic changes? > BEKUS:Efrayim> Humans are never neutral . . . c'est la vie.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> A good question Isleander. No , there are never that many objective people. > ISLEANDERS> keeps everything in a "grey" area dont it?
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Bekus, one is led to believe so. But I have not seen any good scientific reports published, which isn't to say that they don't exist.
> KOLTA:Kolta> That is why we need to make sure they are studied scientifically. > ROYCE3:Royce3> We must be sure to ask these questions of Dike on Tuesday.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> I do hope he has some ready answers. > ISLEANDERS> scientists dont like to be wrong do they? > BEKUS:Efrayim> We humans don't like to be wrong.
> KOLTA:Kolta> How long has he studied crop circles? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Isleanders, scientists need to be right in order to get promoted.
> ** ALCHEMIRA just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (5 members now) ** > ALCHEMIRA> greets... > ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't have a date for that Kolta. But I would say for over five years.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi alchemira, Welcome. > ALCHEMIRA> thank you royce.. > ISLEANDERS> alche hey > ROYCE3:Royce3> Alchemira, we finally got you into the address book.
> ALCHEMIRA> Hey Isle... > ALCHEMIRA> fantastic. > ROYCE3:Royce3> You should now start to get logs. > BEKUS:Efrayim> Does he have a degree in hard science?
> ROYCE3:Royce3> We are talking about crop circles. > ROYCE3:Royce3> I think it is mostly on the job training. > BEKUS:Efrayim> k
> ALCHEMIRA> oh good.....cant wait to see what y'all have to say. > ROYCE3:Royce3> That is the case with most of the people doing this sort of thing.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> So, who are the scientists who are verifying/disqualifying the genetic changes? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Alien Agenda has some very interesting reports. I suggest everyone read that book.
> ISLEANDERS> ufology is an on the job training gig isnt it? > ROYCE3:Royce3> I corresponded with a professor in the East some months ago. He was mentioned in Alien Agenda.
> KOLTA:Kolta> Ufology does attract some scientists. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Unfortunately, although this guy was credited with doing hard research, he said that that was a mistake.
> ALCHEMIRA> Well, so much research has been done on it, an update is required... > ROYCE3:Royce3> It all started to get rather vague. That is too often the case.
> ** SCRYE just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (6 members now) ** > SCRYE:Scrye> Hi, All! > ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Scrye. > ISLEANDERS> hey scrye > BEKUS:Efrayim> Hi Scrye
> KOLTA:Kolta> Hi there > ROYCE3:Royce3> We are talking about the crop circles, Scrye. > SCRYE:Scrye> thanks. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Stuart Dike of the UK will be on hand this coming Tuesday.
> ALCHEMIRA> hey scrye... > ** JEFFLOVE999 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) ** > ALCHEMIRA> hey jeff... > ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Jeff. > ISLEANDERS> hey jeff
> JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> hey everyone > ROYCE3:Royce3> We were just saying that there is a lack of good scientific papers about crop circles.
> SCRYE:Scrye> Hey, everyone who isn't "all". Don't mean to snub y'all. > ROYCE3:Royce3> We forgive you. > ALCHEMIRA> :)
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Anyway, I suggest that you folks submit some questions to me. > ROYCE3:Royce3> For Dike. > BEKUS:Efrayim> We are all the All - it's a Borg mentality . . . lol
> SCRYE:Scrye> Actually, Linda Moulton Howe's piece about their scientific anomalies is the ONLY scientific thing I've seen. And even it isn't a "paper".
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Should we e-mail them to you? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, > ROYCE3:Royce3>
lance95@hotmail.com > ROYCE3:Royce3> Now, please, I can't promise that I will use all of them. > ALCHEMIRA> k
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Everyone knows how chaotic things can get. > SCRYE:Scrye> But if you don't get any, you will! > ALCHEMIRA> No kidding.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> So, when I send 368 - you're only going to use 300 . . . I can live with that. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, that's true, Scrye. > ROYCE3:Royce3> You are most generous, Bekus.
> SCRYE:Scrye> Oh, oh, I must be in smart-*ss mode tonight. > BEKUS:Efrayim> It's just the kind of guy I am. > ALCHEMIRA> gents...brb.....scrye, behave.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> You are learning from the trolls. > ISLEANDERS> excuse me a second gotta order pizza dont talk while im gone > ISLEANDERS> - signed off - > BEKUS:Efrayim> Ouch -
> SCRYE:Scrye> God, we had a time of it yesterday. > ALCHEMIRA> - signed off - > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yeah, scrye, I don't want to have to boot you. <grin>
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, and as we go along, we may start to attract a lot more attention. > BEKUS:Efrayim> I read what happened with Mulder . . . .
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Mulder, has some severe problems. > SCRYE:Scrye> Yeah, I wanted to warn everyone. > ROYCE3:Royce3> He is a sad case, I think.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Such people give chats a very bad reputation. > SCRYE:Scrye> Well, we did cope. > ROYCE3:Royce3> As I mentioned earlier, it is most difficult to keep such
people out all of the time. > BEKUS:Efrayim> In general, chats are prone to such things, I think...present company excluded, of course. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes I think we did a good job, Scrye.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, you are right, Bekus. > JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Last night Jeff Rense called this paranoid week. > KOLTA:Kolta> Why?
> SCRYE:Scrye> Would anyone like to hear the little case reported after hours by Knows The Sky last night? > BEKUS:Efrayim> Blame it on the eclipse. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Scrye.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Jeff, type in your response about Rense, too. > SCRYE:Scrye> Actually two little cases. The first was on a trip to the mountains with Dreaming Tree...
> ** ISLEANDERS just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (6 members now) ** > ISLEANDERS> back u can talk again(haha) > SCRYE:Scrye> Knows The Sky (kts) was going on and on about how she'd like
to be in a close encounter.... > ROYCE3:Royce3> Dramatic pause!!!!!!!!!! > /EXIT > ROYCE3:Royce3> - signed off - > ROYCE3:Royce3> ** The moderator has left the group **
> /JOIN Ufotalk-Time > ** ROYCE3:Royce3 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (6 members now) ** > BEKUS:Efrayim> Gee, Scrye did you boot the moderator?? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Wow.
> SCRYE:Scrye> and finally... > SCRYE:Scrye> Just kidding!!! > SCRYE:Scrye> But Dreaming tree was freaking out and saying No, you're sure you want that????
> SCRYE:Scrye> kts said I bet if we pray and concenterate a UFO would appear.... > SCRYE:Scrye> Dreaming Tree (dt) said that might be dangerous, only do it if you're absolutely sure....
> JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> day of destiny takes place on Friday - August 13, 1999 > ** JOHNN5 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) **
> SCRYE:Scrye> as in (like when he's not around).... > ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi John > ROYCE3:Royce3> Welcome, please have a seat.
> SCRYE:Scrye> But kts persisted and it became dark as evening drew in on the mountain road.... > JOHNN5> okay > SCRYE:Scrye> The road became quite winding and dark. Suddenly.....
> JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> the madness has begun Salt Lake city just had a tornedo in the center of the city from nowhere! > SCRYE:Scrye> Suddenly a DOG appeared, running madly across the road in
front of them! > JOHNN5> so whats happening in here? > BEKUS:Efrayim> Scrye is telling us a story of a UFO appearance > JOHNN5> cool > ROYCE3:Royce3> So go ahead, scrye.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> I do wonder if anyone has some photographs of this particular action. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Scrye, are you there? > JOHNN5> I don't trust the government, they like to cover stuff up
> SCRYE:Scrye> - signed off - > ROYCE3:Royce3> Lord, maybe he wasn't supposed to tell the story!!!!!!! He does seem to have vaporized. > BEKUS:Efrayim> It's a sign from above.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> They took him . . . > ROYCE3:Royce3> That is the frustrating part about this Delphi system. > JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Paranoid week magic!!!!!
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, ahhhhh, well, the will of the Lord. > KOLTA:Kolta> He was abducted > BEKUS:Efrayim> No the MIB took him. > ROYCE3:Royce3> I hope it isn't all too painful.
> JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> The demons captured him > ** SCRYE just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) ** > BEKUS:Efrayim> . > KOLTA:Kolta> He is back!
> JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Where you abducted? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Scyre, go on with your story. > ROYCE3:Royce3> We have been waiting.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> . . . a DOG ran across the street . . . . > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Scrye, the dog, remember the dog. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Quesiton is, is it really Scrye?????????
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Body snatchers . . . of course. > KOLTA:Kolta> Is he lost again? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Scrye, talk to me lad!!!!!!!!
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Maybe it's like it was in Matrix - he doesn't have a mouth . . . or fingers, in this case. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, we might as well move on.
> JOHNN5> help!!! I'm getting abducted > ROYCE3:Royce3> I think Scrye, is having trouble. > KOLTA:Kolta> Maybe he was not meant to tell the story.
> JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> they took his organs > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, I can believe it John. > JOHNN5> - signed off - > ROYCE3:Royce3> Anyway, I want to mention that we have an assignment:
> BEKUS:Efrayim> What is the homework? > ROYCE3:Royce3> We are to watch Close Encounters of the Third Kind. > ROYCE3:Royce3> We talked yesterday about the way the media.....
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Cool. What are we to look for? > ROYCE3:Royce3> and the government work hand in hand. > SCRYE:Scrye> Sorry, a very bad one there, like a tornado!
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Scrye. > BEKUS:Efrayim> Yeah, here, we've had some flash floods today. > ROYCE3:Royce3> We are trying to look for the ways in which the Close
Encounters flick may have been.... > JOHNN5> <ZAP> > JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> you haven't seen anything yet > ROYCE3:Royce3> made in order to get specific messages out to the public.
> KOLTA:Kolta> Does Scrye want to continue his story? > BEKUS:Efrayim> Ah, sort of prepping us for whatever the establishment wants, eh?!
> ROYCE3:Royce3> How closely does the film come to all of the reports about..... > ROYCE3:Royce3> Greys that we have been hearing. > ROYCE3:Royce3> We were told......
> ROYCE3:Royce3> to try to get the Director's Cut, if possible. > ROYCE3:Royce3> The ending to that version is different from what most ...... > ROYCE3:Royce3> people saw.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Director's cut - really? > SCRYE:Scrye> OK, but my suspenseful story only had two more sentences! I second the Director's Cut. It's beautiful.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> We will talk about it on Wednesday. Yes, it is true. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Go ahead, Scrye. > BEKUS:Efrayim> . > JOHNN5> Is this a movie club or somethin?
> SCRYE:Scrye> keep talking; I'll type it all up. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Oh, all right. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Now, I don't know how hard it will be to get..... > ROYCE3:Royce3> the director's cut.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> But if at least a few of us can get that..... > KOLTA:Kolta> I have it. > ROYCE3:Royce3> particular version, we can compare the two.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> You have the director's cut????? > KOLTA:Kolta> Yes. It is expanded. > JOHNN5> Well I like Terminator the best > ROYCE3:Royce3> Damn!!!!! You have all the cool stuff.
> KOLTA:Kolta> Thank you > ROYCE3:Royce3> I never saw the Terminator. > ROYCE3:Royce3> But I did see Predator. > SCRYE:Scrye> THe car slowed down drastically and swerved to miss the dog,
which had appeared like a phantom. Later the man and woman were discussing their close call, when Knows The Sky mentioned the grey dog,
> SCRYE:Scrye> and Dreaming Tree protested, "No, it was a YELLOW dog!" finis..phantom > JOHNN5> Terminator is the best > ROYCE3:Royce3> Let's give Scrye our attention for the moment.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Hit it Scrye. > SCRYE:Scrye> THat was it! > ROYCE3:Royce3> Oh...................gee. > SCRYE:Scrye> It was an obvious case of a screened memory!
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Screened memory? > ROYCE3:Royce3> I think so, Bekus. > KOLTA:Kolta> What about missing time? > BEKUS:Efrayim> As in implanted?
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, what about the missing time? > ROYCE3:Royce3> You have got to get the details, lad. > KOLTA:Kolta> Could they have exp[erienced missing time and left out details?
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Don't leave us hanging. > SCRYE:Scrye> The dog was not two colors! Therefore the mind of the observer had filled in the color. Each observer had made up a different
color for a dog that wasn't really there. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Hmmmmmmmmm. > BEKUS:Efrayim> So, they had an implanted memory - but a detail was left out, is that what you are suggesting?
> SCRYE:Scrye> Many close encounters start with a solitary grey appearing in the road. With or without proof of missing time. > SCRYE:Scrye> ///// > JOHNN5> thats like Total Recall
> SCRYE:Scrye> What happens is that a false memory is implanted. Like "you are really seeing an owl." But the details are left to the contactee.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, it was an entertaining story, Scrye. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Are you convinced of its veracity? > SCRYE:Scrye> I'll save the other one for a better night. Are you all
convinced I am not an agent? > BEKUS:Efrayim> Don't you find it somewhat convenient that they prayed for this/wanted this . . . and it happened?
> ROYCE3:Royce3> No, not at all, Scrye, or whoever you are. > SCRYE:Scrye> Are you all convinced greys are not government androids? > ROYCE3:Royce3> Now that is an interesting point, Bekus.
> BEKUS:Efrayim> We humans have a habit of seeing exactly what we want/expect to see. > KOLTA:Kolta> I do not think greys are government androids.
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Personally, and, I might add, very seriously, I think that one's consciousness can affect physical reality. > SCRYE:Scrye> There are also many accounts in the past few years of people
seeing UFOs after "broadcasting" their readiness. Royce is the exception. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, I have my thumb out constantly.
> ** SATELLITE8 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (8 members now) ** > ROYCE3:Royce3> Can't get a ride to save my butt. > ISLEANDERS> im ready should i broadcast?
> BEKUS:Efrayim> Royce - don't worry, me either. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Hey, Satellite, welcome. > SATELLITE8> i er hrer > SATELLITE8> :) > SATELLITE8> gererertings
> KOLTA:Kolta> Royce you just want to be abducted! > ROYCE3:Royce3> I mean, I will hang my hat on any ship that comes my way.
> SCRYE:Scrye> I will abdicate the hot seat. It's just a chatroom story! > SCRYE:Scrye> Hey, Sat! > ROYCE3:Royce3> Greys, Nordics, you name em. They are all right with me.
> SATELLITE8> :) hi > KOLTA:Kolta> Hi > SCRYE:Scrye> Her keyboard is about to get an alcohol bath, I think. > SATELLITE8> :) hi > SATELLITE8> haha
> ** DIESSE just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (9 members now) ** > SATELLITE8> its gretting pretty olfd > ROYCE3:Royce3> But I do think there is evidence that portals sometimes
open. People can project thoughts through these portals and affect reality. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Diesse. > KOLTA:Kolta> True. We can create with our thoughts.
> SCRYE:Scrye> What a crew. I liked Royce's "close Encounters" movie topic.... > ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, once again, we want everyone to watch it before...
> ROYCE3:Royce3> next Wednesday. > SCRYE:Scrye> Which is preferred, Royce? > SCRYE:Scrye> I mean topics. > ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't follow, Scrye. > JOHNN5> movies for 300
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Yeah, they are cheap. > SCRYE:Scrye> You asked what elements were inside dope on UFOs. > ** _0O_00_FU_0O just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (10 members now) **
> ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, that is one of the topics to be discussed. Thank you, Scrye. > ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi fu. > SCRYE:Scrye> I think the Pleaides formation was information.
> _0O_00_FU_0O> hey fools
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