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Open Chat: Crop circles and Ley Lines.

(Logging at 19-JAN-2000 18:02)
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello jeff,
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Dorcasq
ROYCE3:Royce3> Looks like we are off to a fast start today.
KOLTA:Kolta> Everyone comes at one time
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Hi
1CAVERAT> right on time
.Royce3> Yes, it seems that way.
.Royce3> right on the dot
.Kolta> We are efficient
1CAVERAT> cant stay though
.Royce3> Yes
.Kolta> Too bad
.Royce3> Have to work, Caverat?
.StarRing> I haven't been here for a long time, I need to catch up.
1CAVERAT> gotta get back to work soon
.Royce3> Well, we are glad to see you here, Santucci
.Royce3> What have you been up to, Santucci?
.Royce3> Spot any UFOs?
DORCASQ> Work can always wait!
.Kolta> lol
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.StarRing> busy with post holiday bustle and evryone around has been ill.
1CAVERAT> thats my thoughts, D
.Satellite8> hello
.Royce3> Hello Satellite
DORCASQ> There is always more work to do.
.Royce3> This is an open chat day, so we can talk about whatever you desire.
.Kolta> Work is a four letter word!
1CAVERAT> as little as i can get away with!!!
.Satellite8> i want to talk about work :)
.Royce3> Gee,
1CAVERAT> not me.
.Royce3> Sat you need to get a life.
DORCASQ> I don't know what the word's been so long.
.Satellite8> i love my job
.Kolta> Could someone define work?
.Royce3> Well, that is good Sat.
1CAVERAT> what do u do?
.Satellite8> a place you go to to have fun and get paid for it@!
DORCASQ> Work is something you hate to do - my definition.
.Satellite8> i talk to people all day long on the phone and type their
.Royce3> Data entry.
.Satellite8> we get to chat a bit and tell jokes and make each other laugh
.jefflove> work is the good or service one provides in exchange for money
.Satellite8> NOT JUST DATA ENTRY!!!
.Satellite8> personal excellent service
.Royce3> OK, sorry!!!!!!!!!
DORCASQ> Oh...for money! Where can I do that kind of work???
.Satellite8> and no. its not a 900 hot line
.Royce3> Yes, that was what I was going to add, Sat.
.Satellite8> where i work!
1CAVERAT> telemarketing?!?!!!
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.Satellite8> nope
.Satellite8> ever hear of CALL BEFORE YOU DIG?
.Royce3> Hello vivalvegas, welcome.
1CAVERAT> good!!!
1CAVERAT> yes i have
.Satellite8> well i work there
DORCASQ> I hate telemarketers!
.Satellite8> we don't sell a thing D
.Kolta> ditto
.Satellite8> we are information gatherers
.vegas> hey. whats going on?
.StarRing> I agree Dorcasq
.Satellite8> and information disseminators
.Royce3> So does anyone have anything to report remotely to do with UFOs or
the paranormal?
DORCASQ> For what purpose, Sat, is the company doing this?
.Satellite8> to alert utility companies to mark their ug lines
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.Royce3> Hi Kittym5, welcome.
.Satellite8> just 2 weeks ago a man was electrocuted because the ug elec line
was not marked
1CAVERAT> Royce, did you post my report?
.Satellite8> we make the world a safer place to excavate!
KITTYM5> Hi People! What's the chat about tonight?
1CAVERAT> dig we must!!!
.Royce3> No I haven't reported it, Caverat. I was hoping you would discuss it
some here.
.Royce3> A missing time report.
.Royce3> Very interesting.
KITTYM5> Oh!!!
.Royce3> Can you flesh out the details
.Royce3> Incidentally, I do intend to post it.
1CAVERAT> It is about the same as I posted. He is having some recall
.Royce3> Can you give the other folks here an overview?
1CAVERAT> I hope to have more as his memory returns
1CAVERAT> Best thing would be for them to go to the page and read the entire
1CAVERAT> but it does involve a case of missing time
.Royce3> Well, O.K., but that means moving on to another subject.
1CAVERAT> He has about two hours unaccounted for
.Royce3> Does this fellow have any history of this sort of time loss?
1CAVERAT> It occurred a couple weeks ago outside Washington Pa
1CAVERAT> No Royce
.Royce3> What does he think happened?
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.Royce3> Hi hart, welcome.
HART5> hello
1CAVERAT> He is recalling a bright light and a "need" to travel east on 79
DORCASQ> That sounds very interesting.
1CAVERAT> He is unsure why or what else happened as of now
.Royce3> You don't mean 70 east, do you?
1CAVERAT> right. missed the key
.Royce3> Yes
.Royce3> Did he say more about this feeling of "need?"
1CAVERAT> my error, dont whip me!!
.Royce3> No problem.
DORCASQ> Consider yourself whipped!
.vegas> - signed off -
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1CAVERAT> He hasnt expanded on that, but I think he may given some time
.Royce3> HI isleanders, welcome.
.StarRing> Is someone working with him to help him recover his memory?
ISLEANDERS> heya royce and ufosters
.Royce3> Yes, is he getting any sort of therapy?
DORCASQ> Hey, Isleander!
1CAVERAT> Yes. I have obtained professional counseling though our group for
.Royce3> We are talking about a person who has "lost" time--in a manner of
.Royce3> Any preliminary opinions?
1CAVERAT> None at this time
HART5> .
1CAVERAT> He does seem to be a very reliable witness
.Kolta> Will we get a chance to discuss this again when all of us have the
.Royce3> This bears some relationship to the reality shifts that we discussed
some weeks ago.
ISLEANDERS> lets heard de story b4 opinions
KITTYM5> - signed off -
1CAVERAT> I will post updates on my site as they are available
DORCASQ> Where did he end up on rt. 70? Anywhere special?
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ALICIA39> hi
1CAVERAT> He is not sure.
.Royce3> Hi alicia39, welcome.
.Alicia> thanks, what's the topic?
1CAVERAT> He remembers arriving and turning around though
.Royce3> What is this person's background. Education and such?
.Alicia> abduction?
.Royce3> Missing time, Alicia.
1CAVERAT> college grad. Professional
.Alicia> ok
.Royce3> Sorry, Caverat. Go ahead.
.Royce3> Is the fellow badly shaken by all of this?
.Royce3> And how did he know to contact you?
HART5> .
.Alicia> I'm sure you have already covered this, but where geographically and
at what time did this occur?
1CAVERAT> not shaken. more just curious as to what happened
1CAVERAT> outside Washington Pa
.Royce3> Around Washington, PA. Rt 70 east
1CAVERAT> Found my website, Royce
.Royce3> Hmmmm, well I'm guessing that he thinks that Ets may be involved?
.Alicia> How long is the lapse?
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1CAVERAT> He has not mentioned ETs at all. That in itself is strange
.Royce3> Has he researched UFO sightings?
DORCASQ> Do you know him personally or how did he know to contact you, Cave?
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1CAVERAT> no never had an interest
1CAVERAT> website, D
.Alicia> how old is the subject?
HART5> WB Kolta
DORCASQ> ok, thanks, I missed that
.Kolta> Thanks Hart5
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.Royce3> Hi kitty, welcome
.Alicia> and what time of day?
1CAVERAT> 35 approximate
HART5> WB kitty
KITTYM5> keep crashing tonight!
1CAVERAT> morning, around 7 AM
.Alicia> for how long?
.Royce3> Stick with it Kitty. it can be frustrating.
KITTYM5> what have i missed?
1CAVERAT> about 2 hrs missing time
.Royce3> Was the fellow on his way to work?
DORCASQ> Not you, Kitty, ha, ha
.Alicia> lol
1CAVERAT> from work. Midnight shift
KITTYM5> thanks a lot Dorcas!!!
.Alicia> was he taking any meds?
.Royce3> Any of you who missed things can catch up in a day or two by reading
the logs on our web site. I just want to remind everyone of that.
1CAVERAT> no meds
.Kolta> Going home then?
.Alicia> thanks royce
.Satellite8> be right back
.Satellite8> satellite guys are here
1CAVERAT> i will have to sign off shortly
.Royce3> Understood.
HART5> .
.StarRing> looking forward to reading this.
.Royce3> Have there been more incidents like this in the same area?
1CAVERAT> I will be meeting him tomorrow for another interview session
.Alicia> rural area, I'm guessing, no one to ask about seeing his car around
that time...
.Royce3> Yes, that is a bit of a rural area. Yet there are people around the
1CAVERAT> There is a whole story about the car on my site
DORCASQ> You should start cruising that area, want to be abducted.
.Alicia> what's the address?
.Royce3> Yes, I will post it tonight.
.Kolta> Please do Royce!
1CAVERAT> choose the UFO topic
.Royce3> I will put it up after the chat.
.Alicia> thx
1CAVERAT> its under current cases
.Royce3> Have you reported this to MUFON?
1CAVERAT> i gotta get back to work now, catch you later
1CAVERAT> Not yet royce
.Alicia> bye
.Royce3> OK, thanks, caverat.
.Kolta> Bye Caverat
1CAVERAT> - signed off -
.Royce3> Well, that was interesting.
DORCASQ> Yes, can't wait to read it!
.Alicia> How long ago did this happen?
.Kolta> I would have liked to have read the report first
HART5> yea,
.Royce3> Incidentally, has anyone heard from Penelope? She is to publish her
plant research this week on our website.
.Kolta> No
.Royce3> Penelope, you will recall is doing research that stems from one of
our chats.
.Royce3> Hi jim, welcome.
.Alicia> How long ago did the missing time episode happen?
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.Royce3> Penelope is testing to see if plants respond to emotion in a
telepathic fashion.
KITTYM5> anyone ever heard of Warminster?
.Royce3> I think the missing time report is about a week old.
.Alicia> ty
.Royce3> Yes, I did a presentation at the Naval base there.
DORCASQ> What is Warminster?
.Royce3> It is in Philadelphia.
.Royce3> close
.Alicia> I have to take daughter to piano, thanks everyone!
KITTYM5> No, Wiltshire
.Royce3> Well, there are two.
KITTYM5> sorry, I'm in the uk one
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.Royce3> The one in the states undoubtedly named after the one in the UK.
.Royce3> I always wondered about the one in the UK.
KITTYM5> wondered what?
.Royce3> Well, what the place was about. Why that particular name was chosen
for a place here in the states.
.Royce3> Of course, a lot of places here are named after places in the UK.
KITTYM5> same as lots of places over there i guess eg.Birmingham etc...
.Royce3> Does anyone have any UFO reports to discuss?
.Royce3> Yes, that is correct, Kitty.
DORCASQ> What were you going to tell us about it, Kitty?
.Royce3> Yes you have the floor Kitty.
ISLEANDERS> shoot gotta go my 9 year old alien is abducting me to the gym 4
basketball i keep burning de candle at both ends i guess,see ya wmhen i find
KITTYM5> had a hell of a lot of activity here back in the 60's. still get
loads of crop circles etc.
.Royce3> Ok Isleander, bye.
ISLEANDERS> - signed off -
.Royce3> Well, what is your take on the circles? What percentage are faked?
HART5> .
.Kolta> How do you view the crop circles in the UK?
KITTYM5> some are so amazing. can't see how they can be faked
KITTYM5> farmers are doing a roaring trade Kolta!
.Royce3> We had a gentleman from the Crop Circle website, Stuart Dyke on some
weeks ago.
.Royce3> He felt a lot of the circles were faked, but not all.
KITTYM5> never visited the site before, sounds interesting
.Royce3> Kitty, have you visited many of the circles?
.Royce3> Stuart is a very savvy sort of guy.
KITTYM5> too mean to pay the entry fees!!!
DORCASQ> They have entry fees!!?
.Royce3> How much is usually charged to see the circles?
KITTYM5> Oh yes! It can be big business
DORCASQ> Well, no wonder they are being faked!
.Royce3> Dorcasq, has a point.
.Kolta> Right!!!!!!
.Royce3> Kitty, is there a lot of talk about the circles in the UK?
.Royce3> We don't hear much about them in the mainstream press.
KITTYM5> seems to have died down recently. they became so commonplace
.Royce3> How do you think the real ones--those not faked--develop?
.Kolta> Do they charge for all crop circles?
DORCASQ> I had no idea there were charges - how much?
KITTYM5> not all Kolta, guess some farmers just don't need the money! Just a
few quid usually dorcas.
.Royce3> I know that Stuart says that there is lot of expense in just getting
photographs of the circles.
DORCASQ> ok, much is a quid?
HART5> .
KITTYM5> sorry royce. my theory is alien intelligence. some might say i'm
nuts though!!!
.Royce3> Well, no one here will say you are nuts.
HART5> .
.Kolta> Do you think crop circles are messages left by the ETs?
.Royce3> I believe in Ets. But I'm not sure that the ets created the circles.
KITTYM5> a quid is a pound. not sure of current exchange rates but probably
about $10 max.
DORCASQ> thanks
.Royce3> Well, still, folks could be making a nice profit. Yes indeed.
KITTYM5> what's everyone else's theory then?
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.Royce3> I don't have strong feelings one way or the other. I have talked to
people who have researched them.
.Royce3> I'm not sure many people really feel sure.
KITTYM5> pretty though ain't they?
.Royce3> I tend to think that it is a natural phenomena. But I won't swear to
.Kolta> I will ask again, do you think crop circles are messages left by the
ETs, Kitty?
.Royce3> They sure are pretty.
HART5> that they are Kitty
KITTYM5> sorry kolta. no idea. think they're intelligent enough to know we
wouldn't understand them!
.Kolta> Thanks
KITTYM5> can't see it could be natural phenomena. they're too precise.
.Royce3> Incidentally, I guess everyone has heard that the 90s were the
warmest years in 1000 years. How has the weather been in the UK, Kitty.
Radically different?
KITTYM5> nice summer, freezing now!
DORCASQ> It's not that warm here now either.
.Royce3> Some have suggested a link between the circles and weather changes.
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KITTYM5> just can't accept that!
.Royce3> It is bitter cold in the north easter U.S. too.
DORCASQ> What is the link?
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HART5> it is very cold in north west also
.Royce3> It's the notion that the ETs are trying to communicate with the
common folks of the world.
DORCASQ> What is the link between crop circles and weather changes?
KITTYM5> who R U calling common? lol
.Royce3> According to this line of thinking, the world is getting too warm
and the circle makers want us to take notice.
DORCASQ> Oh, well, I think we notice w/o the circles.
.Royce3> I put myself into the "common" pool, Kitty.
KITTYM5> just kidding!
HART5> : )
.Kolta> Maybe who we think of as being common and who the ETs think of as
being common are 2 different things
.Royce3> As the circles have become more elaborate, the idea has developed
that this is the circle maker's way of screaming for attention.
.Royce3> Well, that is an interesting point, Kolta.
DORCASQ> Then they shouldn't put them in such remote places.
KITTYM5> how long have we been aware of the hole in the ozone layer?
.Royce3> That gets into the who discussion of disclosure.
.Royce3> Dorcasq, the UK isn't remote.
DORCASQ> I mean in corn fields and such - why not Central Park?
HART5> .
.Royce3> There's no wheat in central park.
DORCASQ> good point, Royce!
.Kolta> People are abducted in remote places, generally
.Royce3> Well, one of the most famous abductions took place in NY City.
.Royce3> That according to Bud Hopkins.
.Kolta> I said, generally, not all!
.Royce3> Yes, you did say that.
..Royce3> Now I wonder why that should be?
KITTYM5> anyone know the answer to my ozone layer question?
.Royce3> Maybe the notion of the ets is to establish communication with the
people who really make the world go round.
DORCASQ> My not answering means I don't know, Kitty.
.Royce3> Kitty, I'm not sure how long we have known. I suspect around 10
HART5> we have known about the hole in the ozon for over 15 years
.Royce3> Of course, there have been holes in the ozone for many years, but
they were small and thought to be natural.
.Kolta> But, not everyone who is abducted would be considered to be "making
the world go around."
KITTYM5> a local chap wrote a book called 'the warminster mystery' back in
the 60s' In it, he mentions being contacted by aliens who warned him about
the hole? how could he have known then?
.Royce3> Well, of course, you know that credibility is a question here. Can
the fellow be trusted?
.Royce3> Oh, wait, you said he wrote it in the 60s, sorry
.Royce3> Yes, that puts it all in a different light.
.Kolta> But if he predicted the hole in the 60's, he must have something on
the ball.
KITTYM5> exactly, beats me!
.Royce3> What book are you talking about, Kitty? Title? Author?
KITTYM5> The Warminster Mystery by Arthur Shuttlewood.
.Royce3> Hmmmmm, very interesting. Is it still in print?
.Royce3> I can check
KITTYM5> I don't know. lost my copy. i have another called the warminster
triangle by ken shorto. that's pretty recent.
DORCASQ> Did he say the ETs told him about the hole?
.Royce3> Well, Warminster must be a sort of special place. Tell us more about
KITTYM5> yes, lots of other weird contacts too. some of them a little too
.Royce3> What's the population there? Roughly?
KITTYM5> 12,000 i think
HART5> .
.Royce3> Did you say you lived there, Kitty?
KITTYM5> It's supposedly built on 12 lay lines. yes, i do live here.
DORCASQ> Well, since it turned out to be true, it can't be that wierd.
.Royce3> Are there maps of the ley lines?
HART5> .
KITTYM5> i don't know.
.Royce3> Someone was asking about that the other day.
KITTYM5> about what?
.Royce3> I would be very pleased if you could find out for us.
.Royce3> Ley lines.
.Royce3> They wanted maps of ley lines.
KITTYM5> i can try. where do i look though?
.Royce3> Well, I'm not sure where you should look. I have found interesting
info on the web, but I haven't found maps.
.Royce3> I thought maybe they might be published in the UK.
HART5> .
.Royce3> I would like to get a listing of ley lines around the world.
.Royce3> Publishing such a text might be a good project.
.Satellite8> i have to go now.
.Satellite8> see you guys next time!
.Satellite8> 3peace
.Royce3> Ok. sat
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.Kolta> Have you checked with Michael Morton?
DORCASQ> Yes, I was just thinking that Royce
KITTYM5> i'll see what i can find. anyone, it's midnight here & i've got work
tomorrow. Night all!
.Royce3> A good idea, guys.
.Royce3> All right kitty
.Royce3> thanks
HART5> Me to,
.Royce3> Please come again
HART5> Thanks Kitty
.Royce3> Thanks for coming hart.
KITTYM5> will do
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HART5> I am glad I got a chance to come
.Royce3> Well please come back.
.Royce3> We will be on next Tues
HART5> when I can,
.Royce3> and Wed
.Royce3> 6 pm edt
HART5> cool that is 3 here
.Royce3> Check out the message board and web site too.
HART5> and is when Me kid gets home
.Royce3> Yes, you had better get some rest.
HART5> I read the board all the time it is great
.Royce3> Thank you.
.Royce3> That is good to know.
HART5> Thank You
HART5> night
.Royce3> night
DORCASQ> night, Hart
HART5> - signed off -
.Kolta> You see, Royce, people do read the board!
DORCASQ> Well, we are all alone again.
.Royce3> Wow, it is getting quiet here.
.jefflove> it sure is.
.Royce3> Somebody should serve coffee.
.Royce3> Jeff, how is your article coming?
.jefflove> its very hard to write on wisdom
..jefflove> getting slower and slower
DORCASQ> What are you writing, Jeff?
.Royce3> Are you saying you aren't wise enough?????????
.jefflove> just struggling, but making headway
.Royce3> Kolta, I do like your idea about writing to Michael about the ley
lines. Geeeeee, I should have thought of that!!!!!
.Kolta> Oh wise Jeff of the Ashtar Command!!!!!!!
.jefflove> an article about wisdom from the spiritual perspective
DORCASQ> That sounds interesting.
.jefflove> so hard, but worthwhile
.Royce3> yes it does sound interesting.
.Royce3> Tell us a bit more. I guess you will be giving a talk too?
.Kolta> I wil be looking forward to reading it Jeff
.jefflove> must have it by Sun. for a talk at the Theosophical Society
.Royce3> How many talks have you given there, Jeff? A dozen or more?
.Kolta> This coming Sunday, Jeff?
.jefflove> yes
.jefflove> I announced it at the last meeting
.Kolta> Sorry, I get brain damaged at times
DORCASQ> Are you doing research or how do you find the material?
.jefflove> someway ill finish the article
.jefflove> ive done research
.jefflove> use the library and internet
DORCASQ> What do you look under?
.Royce3> Do you find that you can do most of your research over the net?
.jefflove> yes
.Royce3> Yes, long live the net.
.jefflove> long live the web!!!!!!!!!!!!
.Kolta> Jeff is very good at putting together info he has found over the net
.Royce3> By the way, does the Theosophical Society have a web site?
.jefflove> not yet
.Royce3> That is surprising.
.Royce3> When are you and Fred going to sell some books over the net, Jeff?
.jefflove> The Theosophical Society in America does
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.Royce3> Oh, I want you all to know that I downloaded a great I Ching book
from the net yesterday.
.Kolta> There they go
.jefflove> got kicked off
.Kolta> wb Jeff
.Royce3> Yes, this is a strangely quiet day. i think there must be some
.Royce3> I want to suggest that you all see the movie called Enemy of the
DORCASQ> I'm back
.Kolta> wb D
.Royce3> It is a truly outstanding movie.
DORCASQ> Is that a new movie?
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.Royce3> The movie is now on tape.
.Royce3> D and I saw it earlier today.
.Royce3> It addresses the business of privacy--that lack of it.
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DORCASQ> When you use "D" on the chat, people will think it is me, Royce.
.Royce3> It's a wonderfully woven plot.
.jefflove> plot
.Royce3> Ok, Di and I saw it
DORCASQ> Well, maybe we should just call it a night.
.jefflove> it looks like we will have bitter cold days with some snow
.Royce3> Well, it will be cold for at least the next few days.
.Royce3> Too cold for me.
.Kolta> That might be a good idea D
DORCASQ> I can have my dinner a little earlier.
.Royce3> Yes, I think we can close shop.
.Kolta> I have other things to do
.Royce3> Well, I will see you folks next Tuesday.
DORCASQ> Yes, ok goodnight everyone!
.Royce3> Bye
.Kolta> Thaks Royce. Bye you all
.Royce3> bye
.jefflove> bye
.Royce3> Bye Dorcasq, jeff, Kolta
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.Kolta> Bye
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