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(Logging at 20-DEC-2000 18:01) .Royce3> Hi dorcasq. DORCASQ> Hi Royce. .Royce3> Cold night. Brrrrrrr!
.Royce3> Nasty DORCASQ> Yesssss DORCASQ> Where is all that global warming? .Royce3> Europe. It is probably the warmest winter on record. .Royce3> Absolutely, amazing in Europe.
DORCASQ> Oh yea DORCASQ> Why can't we have some? .Royce3> The fruit trees are blooming. .Royce3> We will probably be the first to have a SUPER STORM!
DORCASQ> That has happened here in the winter in the past. .Royce3> The weather is going wild. .Royce3> Patterns are broken and broken again.
DORCASQ> I remember having a picnic outdoors on New Years Day some years ago. DORCASQ> Whoever said the weather has to conform to what we think it should do?
.Royce3> Well, I don't doubt that the weather is changing in radical ways. DORCASQ> So are we all!!! .Royce3> But a cold winter in this hemisphere will give George Bush a good
excuse to sit on his hands when it comes to environmental issues. DORCASQ> Sit on his hands to keep them warm? .Royce3> HEY YEAH! .Royce3> You got it. DORCASQ> Thanks for making my printer stop!
.Royce3> So where is Seek? DORCASQ> Where is ANYONE? DORCASQ> Everyone out doing their crazed holiday things?? .Royce3> Oh, no problem in regard to the printer. I'm pleased to have been
able to help. As for the participants, I think it is the holiday season. ** JEFFLOVE999 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (3 members now) ** ** BAUBLE49 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (4 members now) **
.jefflove> hello .Royce3> Hello, Jeff. I was beginning to think you weren't coming. DORCASQ> Speaking of "crazed holiday things", HI Jeff and Bauble!
.Royce3> How do you like this weather Jeff? Have you been out in it today? .Bauble> Hey Hey Hey!!!! .jefflove> yes frigid cold .Bauble> Watch your mouth Dorcass...
.Royce3> Kolta's furnace is on the fritz! DORCASQ> Hey is for horses, Barble ** SEEKINGTHETR just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (5 members now) ** .Royce3> Hello, Seek. Welcome.
.jefflove> that is terrible SEEKINGTHETR> good evening all DORCASQ> Dorcass...hmmm, I love it, Barfle DORCASQ> HI Seek .Bauble> Hi Seek, Jeff and Dorcass .Bauble> I do too
.Bauble> fits somehow SEEKINGTHETR> what's that? .Bauble> lol DORCASQ> You have already made everyone call me by a different "real' name, Babu. .Bauble> you're funny tonight dorc!
.Royce3> Seek, I want to thank you again for your informative talk. I would like to focus on what you mean by saying that you could demonstrate certain things in person. Can you be a bit more specific?
DORCASQ> Baub and I are just funnin each other, as usual, Seek. SEEKINGTHETR> sure .Bauble> And I have a question also for Seek SEEKINGTHETR> I'll do a run through of what I do in workshops
.Bauble> ok SEEKINGTHETR> sure Babu .Royce3> Very good. DORCASQ> OK .Bauble> hahaha ** 1CAVERAT just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (6 members now) ** .1Caverat> PUSH
.Royce3> Hi Cave, welcome. .1Caverat> hi all .Bauble> Bout time, Cave! DORCASQ> Hey, Cave is on time. .1Caverat> sorry i'm late
.Royce3> Seek is going to do a run through of what he does at his workshops, Cave. .Royce3> Glad you could make it, Cave. .Bauble> No tardiness allowed when one is on vacation...
.jefflove> wonderful .Bauble> lol SEEKINGTHETR> I normally read the group and try not to confront their belief system too much .1Caverat> OK. I'll listen while he explains
SEEKINGTHETR> especially if they are fundamental Christians .Bauble> I'm listening too .Royce3> A good move, Seek. DORCASQ> I'm reading
SEEKINGTHETR> I start off explaining that thoughts are real physical tangible things .Bauble> Proper Dorc... .Bauble> I believe that .Royce3> Yes, I concur.
SEEKINGTHETR> I like to pick a doubter or someone very logical to do this DORCASQ> Pick Caverat, Seek!!!!!! .Bauble> I'm neither so don't pick me .1Caverat> I accept
SEEKINGTHETR> reason is, their thoughts are more solid and better defined .Royce3> Cave, step to the front of the room please. .Royce3> And stop chewing your gum Cave. .Bauble> stomp stomp stomp
.1Caverat> ptoohy DORCASQ> haha .Royce3> Wrap it in paper, Cave. .Bauble> good Cave! .Royce3> Darn, kids today.
SEEKINGTHETR> I then stand about 30 feet away and ask that person to imagine a door or a tree if outside..somewhere between us .1Caverat> too late
SEEKINGTHETR> I do not look at that person, and I tell them to let me know when they have it visualized .Bauble> Oh, I remember you talking about that before, Seek
SEEKINGTHETR> I ask them to look away or leave the area, but not to look back at the object ** LADYRAVENH3 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) ** DORCASQ> Hi Lady
.Royce3> Welcome, ladyraven. Seek is just starting a report on how he conducts his workshops. SEEKINGTHETR> I then walk toward where they were and show them exactly where they imagined the object
SEEKINGTHETR> point...your thoughts are real .LadyRavenHair> greetings all DORCASQ> Do you actually see the imagined object, Seek? .Bauble> Hi Lady
SEEKINGTHETR> second...I have them close their eyes and imagine the object again SEEKINGTHETR> I feel it DORCASQ> ok .Royce3> I hope you are taking notes, Cave.
.1Caverat> SEEK, how many people visualize the object half way between the two of you? .LadyRavenHair> but has the object come into reality in this dimension? .1Caverat> exactly half way.
SEEKINGTHETR> I then push the object, most of the time the person goes in what ever direction I push the imagined object SEEKINGTHETR> They visualize it all over the place .1Caverat> OK. just wondered.
SEEKINGTHETR> I usually have to ask them not to jam it in front of me or themselves SEEKINGTHETR> within 3 feet of self DORCASQ> Does anyone ever get hurt by it?
SEEKINGTHETR> my point of their moving when I push the object is that they are attached to their thoughts ** STEVE6101 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (8 members now) **
SEEKINGTHETR> not hurt, scared some...knocked several off their feet .Royce3> Welcome, Steve. Seek is reviewing the way he runs his workshops. .1Caverat> Are they aware that you are moving the object?
SEEKINGTHETR> no...they have no idea what I'm doing .1Caverat> OK SEEKINGTHETR> point...since you are attached to your thoughts, forgiveness is VERY important as you are attached to those you hate
.1Caverat> Have you tried it with the subject behind a solid wall? .1Caverat> Out of sight. DORCASQ> That makes sense, Seek. .LadyRavenHair> wait...these are imagined objects, correct?
DORCASQ> Being attached to the person you hate. SEEKINGTHETR> not everyone moves...some imagine spacially...instead of moving they cannot imagine the object once I push it away .Royce3> Yes, Lady
.LadyRavenHair> ok, ty SEEKINGTHETR> If I miss a question, forgive me as I'm a very slow typist .Royce3> You are doing fine, Seek. .Royce3> Cave: Questions?
.LadyRavenHair> quite alright...someone else answers .LadyRavenHair> :) SEEKINGTHETR> this is the basis for the workshop....how the mind works with thoughts
.Royce3> Cave asked if you have tried this technique when a person is behind a wall? .1Caverat> I did not get a response to the wall question or I missed it
DORCASQ> You said you can show a person their energy field with all their thoughts stored in it, Seek, how do you "show" them that? .Royce3> Yes, can you answer the wall question?
.LadyRavenHair> sorry...I have been half paying attention to screen..waiting for visitors to leave.. SEEKINGTHETR> not this technique, but I've done it where they were in the
room, imagined the object, then left the room, and I came in and found it .Royce3> A boot in the pants will get them moving, Lady! .1Caverat> OK .LadyRavenHair> lol...
DORCASQ> Did you see my question, above, Seek? SEEKINGTHETR> the next thing I do is teach them the frequency differences of their thoughts
SEEKINGTHETR> yes Dorcas...that is coming...can't start with that .Bauble> What does being attached to hate do to the attached person? SEEKINGTHETR> Yes dorcas
DORCASQ> ok...sigh...I will try to be patient. Thanks SEEKINGTHETR> that is coming, but groundwork must be laid first .Bauble> ok
SEEKINGTHETR> I am trying to teach, not to have them see it as a miracle .1Caverat> A frequency by definition is something which can be measured. What is measured? SEEKINGTHETR> anyone can do this
SEEKINGTHETR> cave...I feel it with my hands or my whole body .1Caverat> How does it feel? SEEKINGTHETR> I feel differences in each person .1Caverat> Do you percieve heat? cold? What?
SEEKINGTHETR> sometimes it is like holding your hand in front of a speaker SEEKINGTHETR> yes to heat and cold SEEKINGTHETR> but not normally
SEEKINGTHETR> If I feel heat it is usually a person who I have to be careful with .Bauble> interesting SEEKINGTHETR> they usually have a high sexual energy
.1Caverat> Your reference to the speaker would indicate a frequency somewhere below 1 khz .LadyRavenHair> I am sorry, I came in late...but can anyone tell me exactly
what Seek teaches others to do...I mean no offense SEEKINGTHETR> I feel many ranges .Royce3> How do very negative and skeptical people affect the results of your demonstration, Seek?
.1Caverat> What would you say is the highest range? SEEKINGTHETR> one thing I do usually next is to teach the power of prayer SEEKINGTHETR> no idea cave
.Royce3> Lady, I think we can say that he teaches esoteric traditions. .1Caverat> OK .LadyRavenHair> ok .LadyRavenHair> manifest
.Bauble> He feels peoples energy fields and I think he can tell where the problems are, Lady SEEKINGTHETR> negative people usually buy in with the first part .LadyRavenHair> ok .LadyRavenHair> ty
SEEKINGTHETR> when they see the imagined object part .Bauble> huh?? SEEKINGTHETR> if they do not...that is fine, I am not there to impose .Bauble> buy into what
.Royce3> Bauble would like you to expand upon that, Seek. .1Caverat> Are you saying a negative person is easier to convince? SEEKINGTHETR> when they see the first demonstration, the doubt usually leaves
.Bauble> ty DORCASQ> Good interpretation of Baub's "huh"? Royce .Royce3> So negative people can't really ruin the demonstration, Seek?
SEEKINGTHETR> if they doubt too much, they usually have fear and I do not want to use them in front of a group .Royce3> ty, Dorcasq
SEEKINGTHETR> they are easier to move when they are negative and it upsets them SEEKINGTHETR> I like to work with them alone SEEKINGTHETR> for privacy sake
.1Caverat> Then would you say the movement demonstration would be less likely to succeed with a positive person? SEEKINGTHETR> usually the next thing I teach is the power of prayer
SEEKINGTHETR> if positive is inner peace then yes, if it is fake, then no difference to the fearful one .1Caverat> OK ** UFOLENSIND just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (9 members now) **
SEEKINGTHETR> I explain to them that if I wave my finger in a hostile manner in their face, how do they feel when .1Caverat> I assume inner peace refers to a positive emotional state
SEEKINGTHETR> I do it .Bauble> Is your definition of prayer different than for meditation, Seek? .Umbriel> hey, everyone. how are we this evening?
SEEKINGTHETR> cave...inner peace is more lack of emotion than a positive or negative DORCASQ> Hi Umbriel .Bauble> Hi Umbriel SEEKINGTHETR> Good question Bauble
.Royce3> Hi Ufo. We are listening to a workshop description--the workshop that Seek gives. .1Caverat> OK SEEKINGTHETR> Prayer is looking to a higher power
SEEKINGTHETR> I leave the details to the person .Umbriel> sure, can't say long, but i'll cerainly listen .Bauble> I thought prayer is talking to God and meditation is listening to God
SEEKINGTHETR> I do look at their energy field and see if they are making a connection or not SEEKINGTHETR> if they do not, I connect them
.Royce3> Ufo, if you give me an email address, I will send you a log of what you have missed. SEEKINGTHETR> by saying a prayer on their behalf .Umbriel> sure
SEEKINGTHETR> you can actually see a light over their head when they are connected .Royce3> That goes for lady, too. I will gladly send her a log. .Royce3> Very good, UFO.
SEEKINGTHETR> after the 5 second prayer, I ask them to open their eyes SEEKINGTHETR> I repeat the finger waving .1Caverat> Prayer is any comunication with God. Meditation is taking any and
all facts, or other thoughts on a particular problem and using them to arrive at a conclusion. This includes prayer, at least in my .1Caverat> opinion. SEEKINGTHETR> and ask What is the difference?
SEEKINGTHETR> meditation is like saying I"M calling some one on the phone, prayer is the type of thoughts you project SEEKINGTHETR> anyway...they usually say the emotion is gone the second time
.Bauble> ty seek and cave SEEKINGTHETR> then I explain how this can be used as a tool in personal problem resolution with others
SEEKINGTHETR> it takes the emotion away so they can work through the problem logically SEEKINGTHETR> this is a little hard to demonstrate with very logical people who have abandoned their emotions
.1Caverat> . .Bauble> . .LadyRavenHair> ... .Royce3> Irritate him and he will show emotion! lol SEEKINGTHETR> I demonstrate this by asking them...usually men...how do you
know that your wife, girlfriend loves you SEEKINGTHETR> they describe the persons actions to me SEEKINGTHETR> an emotional person will say I feel it
SEEKINGTHETR> not right or wrong, just two different ways we process thoughts in the consciousness DORCASQ> Yes, that is interesting.
SEEKINGTHETR> Now, I usually explain the two counter rotating energy fields SEEKINGTHETR> the logical and emotional SEEKINGTHETR> I have a person stand about 15 feet away from me and close their eyes
SEEKINGTHETR> the reason I have them close their eyes is so the mind does not work SEEKINGTHETR> I want to bypass the mind and go directly to the subconsciousness
.1Caverat> The mind does not work when the eyes are closed?? .LadyRavenHair> .. .Umbriel> heh SEEKINGTHETR> I merely make a gesture with my hand and watch their movement
.Umbriel> please rephrase that seek SEEKINGTHETR> I say nothing, I do not touch them, nor is their taste or smell SEEKINGTHETR> when they close their eyes they have no sensory input
.Umbriel> i know what you mean. .1Caverat> But thought processes continue do they not? SEEKINGTHETR> any response is not then from the mind responding to what I am doing
SEEKINGTHETR> they do not think and interfere with their response .Bauble> makes sense DORCASQ> I think better with my eyes closed.
SEEKINGTHETR> a prime example is if I wave my finger in a certain type of persons face with eyes open...they move backward .1Caverat> One can choose to raise or lower their arm for example without
sensory input SEEKINGTHETR> if their eyes are closed, they move forward SEEKINGTHETR> this tells me that they are attracted toward abusive personalities
SEEKINGTHETR> even though their mind says...stay away from them SEEKINGTHETR> back to the person 15 feet away with eyes closed .LadyRavenHair> ..
SEEKINGTHETR> I watch their movement and tell them how their parents got along when they were born to age 4 or 5 DORCASQ> You don't get all these annoying interruptions during your
demonstrations, do you Seek? SEEKINGTHETR> if they got divorced SEEKINGTHETR> no problem DORCASQ> You are such a good sport! SEEKINGTHETR> I talk much better than I type
** 1ANDONLY1 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (10 members now) ** 1ANDONLY1> Hi Room .Umbriel> hell andonly .1Caverat> I still cannot see how one can shut down all thought process even
if sensory input is deprived. DORCASQ> Hi 1andonly1 .Umbriel> i mean hello .Royce3> Hello 1andonly. Seek is discussing how he runs a workshop.
SEEKINGTHETR> what I am doing that causes them to move is stimulating the emotional component of their thoughts .Bauble> landonlyl, you've missed a good report so far. But glad you're here now!
1ANDONLY1> Thought I,d pop in and wish everyone seasons greetings for next week SEEKINGTHETR> if you were to crosscut the human energy field it looks like the growth rings on a tree
.Royce3> Thank you very much 1andonly1. .LadyRavenHair> ty, and to u too DORCASQ> Seasons Greetings to you 1andonly1, and everyone!
SEEKINGTHETR> except that it starts at 15 feet and closes in on the person .Bauble> HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU TOO landlonlyl!!! SEEKINGTHETR> not growth, but death 1ANDONLY1> ty all
.Bauble> That makes sense, Seek .LadyRavenHair> .. .Royce3> Yes, very good, Seek. SEEKINGTHETR> as I move toward them, I'm coming more current on their time line
DORCASQ> Does this help change the way people think, Seek? .Bauble> You've lost me there, Seek?? SEEKINGTHETR> If they move to my right, they internalized their emotions relating to the event
.Bauble> About growth--death .1Caverat> I'm still lost on shutting down the thought processes .Umbriel> i must get going.. i'll be back another day .Umbriel> bye everyone DORCASQ> Bye
.1Caverat> bye .Royce3> bye ufo .Bauble> Merry Christmas UFO .LadyRavenHair> bye 1ANDONLY1> bye Umb .Royce3> Please continue seek.
.Umbriel> thanks for the info SEEK. thank youm all. .Umbriel> - signed off - SEEKINGTHETR> I'm saying that unlike a tree which grows outward, the human
energy field gets smaller as walls are built until one dies .Bauble> Thank you SEEKINGTHETR> healing is by removing the walls 1ANDONLY1> hhhmmmm, I look forward to reading this log!
DORCASQ> Ok I understand that SEEKINGTHETR> remember a wise man who said..."In order to know my father, you must be like a child."
.Bauble> Do you have to do these things a few times to really heal a persons energy field?? SEEKINGTHETR> this is what he meant
SEEKINGTHETR> I try not to heal, but to help them to learn and heal themselves .Bauble> Like going back to one's original self .Royce3> That is an important nuance Seek--helping them heal themselves.
.Bauble> Very good, Seek SEEKINGTHETR> I can if necessary, but then they think I did it and don't learn SEEKINGTHETR> remember, even death is a learning experience .Bauble> yes
SEEKINGTHETR> who am I to take away a persons experiences that they planned for their soul to learn SEEKINGTHETR> that is why I try to set myself aside when doing this
SEEKINGTHETR> because I do not want to play God DORCASQ> By healing them, are you taking away their experience of suffering? SEEKINGTHETR> If something does not work, that is fine too, even if I'm in
front of a large group .Royce3> Seek, during your workshops, have you ever felt someone consciously trying to stop you from working effectively? .LadyRavenHair> .
SEEKINGTHETR> lol, a lot of time I catch them praying while I'm doing the testing SEEKINGTHETR> I laugh and tell them what they are doing STEVE6101> what do you call your workshops?
.Royce3> Very interesting. SEEKINGTHETR> and say, that is exactly what I'm trying to teach SEEKINGTHETR> if a person goes to my left, they externalized the emotion...usually anger
SEEKINGTHETR> if backward..the ran from the situation .Royce3> Some people have gone on at length discussing the possibility that
negative energy can disrupt demonstrations of this sort. But you seem to feel that that isn't the case. SEEKINGTHETR> if forward..they were attracted to what I'm projecting
SEEKINGTHETR> negative energy stops healing .1Caverat> Seek, Teaching them is fine, but one does not need to go to medical school to be healed by a physician. .Royce3> ok
SEEKINGTHETR> but I'm teaching why a person needs to rid the negative DORCASQ> Good point, Cave .LadyRavenHair> where are your workshops held? SEEKINGTHETR> what I do is what original physicians did
SEEKINGTHETR> look at the medical emblem .1Caverat> The comment has to do with teaching rather than outright healing. I would imply both would benefit the subject
SEEKINGTHETR> the serpents are the two energy fields .Royce3> Kundalini engergy SEEKINGTHETR> the crossing points are the chakras SEEKINGTHETR> yes royce
DORCASQ> If a person is healed by someone else they will just find another illness. .LadyRavenHair> SEEK, where do you hold your workshops, or should I hold questions? SEEKINGTHETR> exactly dorcas
SEEKINGTHETR> that is why the testing is so impt 1ANDONLY1> I sometimes see the energy more as flow and return .Royce3> Eastern US, I think, Lady.
.1Caverat> Heal them AND teach them how to maintain their health SEEKINGTHETR> it tells them the original cause of the problem .LadyRavenHair> ty Royce
.Royce3> Seek is from the state of Pennsylvania, U.S. .LadyRavenHair> ok, ty .Royce3> Pennsylvania--I spelled it wrong the first time, Lady. .Bauble> What tells them the original cause??
1ANDONLY1> I thought Seek was from Australia! .LadyRavenHair> spelling doesn't count here :) SEEKINGTHETR> In women who get in to abusive relationships...I can help them
remember the original event that caused them to adopt the unhealthy thought patterns SEEKINGTHETR> and heal them so they no longer need to be abused
.Royce3> 1and, you should visit more often. Then you would know! :-) SEEKINGTHETR> Impt point DORCASQ> You are speaking more of mental/emotional healing than physical, right, Seek?
1ANDONLY1> yes Royce .Royce3> . SEEKINGTHETR> our subconscious causes us to be attracted toward personalities which are similar to those whom we have unresolved conflict with
.Royce3> Yes, that is a proven fact, Seek. SEEKINGTHETR> this is to cleanse self SEEKINGTHETR> this is why people respond to my testing
SEEKINGTHETR> the problem is the way the human energy field stores thoughts STEVE6101> If you where to have workshops for people that weren't ill would it help them prevent from becoming ill?
SEEKINGTHETR> in children, logical skills are not developed .Bauble> good question Steve SEEKINGTHETR> Steve...I teach exactly what the Bible and other religions do
.Royce3> How did you work out this testing, Seek. Did you develop all of the tests on your own, or did you develop the techniques with the assistance of others?
DORCASQ> I think everyone is just considered to be ill, Steve. .LadyRavenHair> ? 1ANDONLY1> lol SEEKINGTHETR> developed by working with people in sessions
SEEKINGTHETR> think about what Buddha and Jesus taught...this is what I'm saying SEEKINGTHETR> anyway..children store thoughts in more emotional fields .LadyRavenHair> and you teach the same, I see...
SEEKINGTHETR> emotional memories are retrieved by bridging to them with similar emotions STEVE6101> is it in these emotional fields where the most damage is done SEEKINGTHETR> kind of random access
.1Caverat> not quite the same .Royce3> Bauble would like you to be more specific about what Buddha and Jesus taught. In the eyes of some, the teachings of these two sages differs.
SEEKINGTHETR> thus it is very easy for a child to block out a bad experience from memory SEEKINGTHETR> but the belief patterns formed by it are still there
.1Caverat> Both teach how to relate to humanity, Jesus teaches eternal salvation, Buddah does not SEEKINGTHETR> when that person goes to get a similar emotion in current life..a panic attack starts
SEEKINGTHETR> please, let's not debate Buddha and Jesus...if you need the answers there read Thich Nhat Hahn DORCASQ> Very true, seek .1Caverat> you brought it up, seek. OK
SEEKINGTHETR> panic attack or anxiety as they do not want to get on the emotional bridge .Royce3> In the Buddhist religion/philosophy those who reach enlightenment gain a form of salvation.
.LadyRavenHair> .. DORCASQ> So a person needs to bring these buried emotions into the light. SEEKINGTHETR> both teach the same thing...Christians misinterpret Jesus SEEKINGTHETR> yes dorcas
.1Caverat> Royce, apparently that is off topic so I will debate that another time SEEKINGTHETR> thanks cave SEEKINGTHETR> it's a very good topic though
DORCASQ> We could have that as a topic next time?? .Bauble> Yes a very good topic for another discussion night .Royce3> Patience, Dorcasq! :-)
SEEKINGTHETR> anyway, I stimulate the childhood memory and reverse bridge it back into the persons mind .1Caverat> I hope I am still off w%^k and I'll be here .Bauble> THAT is not her middle name!!!!
SEEKINGTHETR> they can be 70 yrs old and remember a blocked event DORCASQ> YOU ARE SO RIGHT, Baubs .Royce3> Ahhhh, Cave, I've heard you will be fired. You can then make all of the chats! lol
DORCASQ> ME, ME, ME, NOW, NOW, NOW .LadyRavenHair> lol .1Caverat> I should be so lucky! .Royce3> No desert for Dorcasq. Behave Dorcasq.
SEEKINGTHETR> anyway....the height of my hand tells me the type of issue SEEKINGTHETR> the distance tells me the age .Bauble> Do you mean Seek, that they remember something they don't ever
remember thinking about before?? SEEKINGTHETR> yes STEVE6101> you could be my child Dorc SEEKINGTHETR> lol DORCASQ> I would love that, Steve...always wanted a horse! .LadyRavenHair> lol
SEEKINGTHETR> usually they lose it emotionally immediately STEVE6101> only if you are a good girl DORCASQ> Steve owns horses. SEEKINGTHETR> then I usually strip the emotion from the thought for them
SEEKINGTHETR> and let them talk to me about it logically .Bauble> Thought you wanted them to learn to do these things on their own. Not for you to do it for them??
SEEKINGTHETR> all of a sudden lifetime behavior patterns are obvious .Bauble> Oh, you speak one on one to them?? SEEKINGTHETR> at that point they are a ticking time bomb...since I stimulated
the emotion, I better take it down to a manageable level .Bauble> yes, good idea SEEKINGTHETR> these are things that I use in therapy sessions
DORCASQ> This is very much like psychotherapy, Seek...hope you have proper training. SEEKINGTHETR> In demonstrations I bounce over them quickly as to not bring them up
SEEKINGTHETR> I did a workshop for Md's and found that they could not handle their own issues as they came up SEEKINGTHETR> same with therapists
SEEKINGTHETR> You can do in one session what takes a year of psychotherapy .Bauble> These things would be tough for one to deal with
DORCASQ> Seek...a lot of your clients may go home and commit suicide!! lol SEEKINGTHETR> No SEEKINGTHETR> they are feeling great as they understand WHY for the first time SEEKINGTHETR> they have hope
DORCASQ> But they need to know how to deal with it. SEEKINGTHETR> usually the release of the event takes place in the session and they are healed
SEEKINGTHETR> Dorcas...we do deal with it at the subconscious level, and that is where the problem came from .Bauble> would you ever bother doing a session with MD's and therapists again???
.Royce3> I want to remind everyone that we send out logs of all of our chats to those on our mailing list. By being on the list you will get a log of all the chats, even those you couldn't attend.
SEEKINGTHETR> same is true in dealing with rape victims STEVE6101> is knowing they aren't to blame by there own doings part of the healing SEEKINGTHETR> absolutely steve .jefflove> 7:30 7:30 7:30
SEEKINGTHETR> each traumatic event is a leak in consciousness at a lower level .Royce3> We are just about done for this evening. I want to thank Seek for
providing us with so much valuable information over the past few nights. Thanks to all of you for coming. I invite you to join us .Royce3> again next Tuesday and Wednesday at 6:00 P.M. EDT.
.LadyRavenHair> wow...know I know...jef is the timekeeper... SEEKINGTHETR> we plug the holes so they can climb higher DORCASQ> THANKS, Seek .Royce3> Lady, Jeff has found a niche!
DORCASQ> HAPPY HOLIDAYS everyone!! .Bauble> One of my earlier questions. What happens to the person who is attached to hate for another
.LadyRavenHair> thank you all, esp. Seek, for sharing knowledge and beliefs... .jefflove> happy new year .LadyRavenHair> you meet next tues? SEEKINGTHETR> that hate controls them
.LadyRavenHair> or the one after? DORCASQ> Yes Lady 1ANDONLY1> I would like to thank you Jeff for the e-mail greeting. It was warmly received and returned the same way .Bauble> ty
.Royce3> Well, we are glad to have you Lady. Yes, next Tues, Lady. SEEKINGTHETR> yes jeff...thankyou .Royce3> Thanks again Seek.
STEVE6101> people usaully hate people for qualities that are in themselves but not manifestated .jefflove> all are welcome .Royce3> Good night all.
.LadyRavenHair> well for those who celebrate christmas, have a happy one, for for those who do not, have a happy season... .Royce3> - signed off - .jefflove> bye DORCASQ> Goodnight everyone
STEVE6101> - signed off - .LadyRavenHair> - signed off - .Bauble> Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to one and all!!! 1ANDONLY1> go with God .1Caverat> catch you all later.....take care
.jefflove> - signed off - SEEKINGTHETR> people ask what my background is to do psychotherapy and I tell them I was a CPA 1ANDONLY1> you too Baub DORCASQ> Good answer, Seek lol
.Bauble> ty land .Bauble> that's ok, Seek 1ANDONLY1> CPA?? .Bauble> Maybe someday some of us can get together SEEKINGTHETR> what I'm teaching are tools to achieve enlightenment
.Bauble> they sound like very important tools to me 1ANDONLY1> would be nice Baub .Bauble> You have to come to PA though land.... SEEKINGTHETR> I do plan on coming to Pitt in January
SEEKINGTHETR> not sure when yet though 1ANDONLY1> please give our love to kolta DORCASQ> It would be nice if we could all meet, Seek. ** BONGO666 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (6 members now) **
.Bauble> She is not well right now land but hopefully getting better 1ANDONLY1> or you could come here Baub DORCASQ> Bongo, we are closing the chat now. Come back next Tuesday at 6pm
BONGO666> hello are you guys crazy?!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEEKINGTHETR> that's the most I've ever typed in an hour and a half .Bauble> I will tell her you said HI BONGO666> germany
DORCASQ> You do very well, Seek DORCASQ> Bye for now DORCASQ> - signed off - (Logging turned off)
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