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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi
DORCASQ> Hi Royce
ROYCE3:Royce3> How is your day going?
DORCASQ> How are you doing? Mine is going very well.
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Jeff, welcome.
DORCASQ> Hi Jeff
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Hi
ROYCE3:Royce3> How is your day going, Jeff?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Incidentally, we forgot to mention the prayer list yesterday.
DORCASQ> WWWEEEEEE???
ROYCE3:Royce3> If we have a representative group, we will have to try to get
people onto the list.
DORCASQ> I mentioned it two or three times!
DORCASQ> I was ignored each time.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I forgot.
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi kolta.
KOLTA:Kolta> Hi all!
DORCASQ> Hi K!
ROYCE3:Royce3> I just mentioned that the prayer list wasn't updated yesterday.
DORCASQ> Kolta, please back me up...didn't I mention the prayer list a few
times last night in the chat?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I take full blame.
KOLTA:Kolta> I think you did, D
DORCASQ> Ok - so don't ignore me the next time.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> I have some vey interesting information about Dr harder
ROYCE3:Royce3> I deserve any number of lashes you want to dish out.
DORCASQ> Just like to give you heck, Royce.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Beat me, beat me, make me feel cheap!!!!!!
DORCASQ> What about Dr. Harder, Jeff?
KOLTA:Kolta> Royce had to be lashed first!
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> The source IS aSSOCIATED pRESS
ROYCE3:Royce3> YES!!!
DORCASQ> Yes...now that we got that over with...
KOLTA:Kolta> Go, Jeff!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Aaaaaaaaaaahummmmm
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> NH Primary Results
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, there were surprises there.
DORCASQ> What????
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> 98 % of districts were counted in DEM Primary
ROYCE3:Royce3> Bush was beat.
KOLTA:Kolta> I am really curious now
ROYCE3:Royce3> Gore almost got beat.
KOLTA:Kolta> Who beat Bush?
ROYCE3:Royce3> McCain
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> 294 out 0f 300 Districts
KOLTA:Kolta> That is a bad sign to be beaten in NH!
ROYCE3:Royce3> A BIG, BIG upset!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Chilling for the Bush camp.
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1CAVERAT> Hi all
DORCASQ> I'm still not sure..what does that mean for Harder?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Caverat, welcome.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Two big candidates Al Gore 75,449 votes 52%
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, what is the point about Harder?
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Harder, of course, is our UFO sensitive candidate.
KOLTA:Kolta> You did mention Harder Jeff
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Bill Bradley 68,8oo votes 47%
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello Ruth, welcome.
KOLTA:Kolta> What about Harder???????
DORCASQ> Don't keep me in suspenders, Jeff, please!
RUTH1956> - signed off -
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> now the big moment!!!!!!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, have the aliens joined her, Jeff?
DORCASQ> Are you in your truck tonite, Caverat?
1CAVERAT> not tonite
DORCASQ> Good!
1CAVERAT> that was just a test
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Heather Harder 171 votes
ROYCE3:Royce3> Wife kick you out of the house?
1CAVERAT> borrowed computer and all
1CAVERAT> no Royce. Just trying a mobil link
DORCASQ> Is that a decent amount of votes, Jeff?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Gee, Jeff, I don't think 171 votes amounts to anything.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Friends and family voted for her, I guess.
DORCASQ> Yea
ROYCE3:Royce3> Maybe we could put all of them on our email list.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> the best minor candidate Charles Buckley 305 votes
1CAVERAT> its 171 votes that didnt go to Al Gore
KOLTA:Kolta> All that build up for that???
DORCASQ> How did the test work out, Cave?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, tell us about the test, Cave.
DORCASQ> I know, I should know better, Kolta.
KOLTA:Kolta> That is true Caverat
1CAVERAT> good, considering the apple computer it was done with
1CAVERAT> apple comments???
DORCASQ> What were you testing it for?
KOLTA:Kolta> The poor apple computer
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, how did you come to choose Apple?
1CAVERAT> I am going to get a cell phone / modem linkup if it worked out
1CAVERAT> I just borrowed it since he already had a modem link
ROYCE3:Royce3> That would be neat, Caverat.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> she received less than 1% of the Democratic vote
DORCASQ> That is really too bad about Harder.
1CAVERAT> Im not really that down on apple. I have an older one myself
ROYCE3:Royce3> I think she is failing in her quest to expand the dialogue.
Too bad.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Do you have a laptop computer, Cave?
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> about 0.1% of the Democractic vote
1CAVERAT> yes I do. an older IBM
KOLTA:Kolta> I do not expect Harder to win. But she can take votes away from
appropriate people
1CAVERAT> 486
DORCASQ> I would just like to see her in some debates.
ROYCE3:Royce3> What is the clock speed, Cave?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, with only 171 votes, she will surely be ignored.
DORCASQ> yes
1CAVERAT> Its the way i would do the live remote from area 51 this summer we
talked about last week
ROYCE3:Royce3> It is a thankless task.
1CAVERAT> 50mhz
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, has the guy from Nevada gotten back to you?
1CAVERAT> no he hasn't
ROYCE3:Royce3> Have you tried to contact him?
DORCASQ> I hope that will work, Cave - that would be really great!
1CAVERAT> dont have his email address
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, we will have a correspondent in the field.
1CAVERAT> im satisfied with the results of the test
KOLTA:Kolta> Take Jeff with you, Caverat, :-)
DORCASQ> He gave his address, didn't he?
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> UFO issue is the taboo issue of American politics
ROYCE3:Royce3> Caverat, shame on you. You aren't reading the logs. He left an
address there.
DORCASQ> I took it out of the log - but I still have it.
1CAVERAT> i plead guilty as charged
ROYCE3:Royce3> Send it over to Cave, if he wants it.
DORCASQ> Wait...looking for it now.
ROYCE3:Royce3> ok
1CAVERAT> i had it the nite he was on, and i log the chat realtime though
1CAVERAT> i probably have it if I would read my own log
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, he may or may not be a good one to meet out there.
DORCASQ> ***address edited***
ROYCE3:Royce3> I love that name.
1CAVERAT> thats true royce. I only know what he divulged on the chat
KOLTA:Kolta> It must be the admiral part Royce likes
DORCASQ> Did you see the address above, Cave?
DORCASQ> I will take it out of here again so WRITE IT DOWN.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Incidentally, Ufotalk-time is now linked to the Arches,
Caverat.
1CAVERAT> no, im on my work computer and dont have access to my normal mail
account if thats how you sent it
ROYCE3:Royce3> Dorcasq is getting tough these days.
DORCASQ> It is on this chat screen, Cave!
1CAVERAT> ok royce. I will open a reciprocal link
DORCASQ> Do you want me to type it again?
1CAVERAT> D, this computer has a firewall and IM is disabled :(
DORCASQ> Helpme!
DORCASQ> Someone!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave, she didn't send it over IM.
ROYCE3:Royce3> It is on this screen.
ROYCE3:Royce3> The one you are now looking at.
KOLTA:Kolta> Caverat, D just gave you the address in this chat!
DORCASQ> ***address edited***
ROYCE3:Royce3> Copy it Cave.
ROYCE3:Royce3> GEEEEEEEEEEe, Cave are you drinking beer on the job again?
1CAVERAT> i got it that time
DORCASQ> I'm laughing so hard, I can't type.
1CAVERAT> its not above though
DORCASQ> YES IT IS
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> *
ROYCE3:Royce3> Don't get him mad, or he will quit us, too. Everyone gets mad
here.
KOLTA:Kolta> ditto
DORCASQ> Sometimes I feel like I am invisible.
1CAVERAT> maybe im not getting everything that is posted
DORCASQ> Maybe, Cave.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Maybe not.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> BETTER TO BE INVISIBLE THAN ANGRY
1CAVERAT> smtms thngs gt msplced
DORCASQ> I'm not angry - I'm really laughing!
KOLTA:Kolta> Cool off Jeff
ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave you might want to be sure to check the logs just to be
sure that you were actually able to see all of the words posted here live.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Maybe you are getting some dropout.
KOLTA:Kolta> - signed off -
DORCASQ> I have to check the logs just to make sure I was here.
1CAVERAT> i dont think im here tonite!
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Are you still communicating with the fellow who experienced
the missing time?
DORCASQ> We are all missing time on the chats.
1CAVERAT> yes, but there have been no major new developments
ROYCE3:Royce3> I am really quite curious about that guy. Yes, you are right
about missing time here, Dorcasq
1CAVERAT> i think i just lost about twenty minutes
KOLTA:Kolta> Really?
DORCASQ> Yes
ROYCE3:Royce3> Caverat, how many serious UFO researchers would you say there
are here in PA?
1CAVERAT> give or take twenty minutes
KOLTA:Kolta> :-)
1CAVERAT> i know of about 15 personally
ROYCE3:Royce3> Would you say there might be as many as 150?
DORCASQ> You were probably frozen in your truck last night.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Are most of the people you know members of MUFON?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Of the investigators.
1CAVERAT> could be. royce. It depends on what you would consider serious
1CAVERAT> some, not most
1CAVERAT> the truck was cold. Thats why i left early
ROYCE3:Royce3> Are most of them on the internet?
1CAVERAT> about half i would say
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hey, this is cold weather.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Only half? I would have guessed that they would all be on the
net.
DORCASQ> Amazing - how a computer can be used in a truck - and the truck
can't be heated.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Computers usually do very well in the cold.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Batteries take a beating however.
1CAVERAT> it could be, i just was in and out and didnt do it
1CAVERAT> i was on an inverter
KOLTA:Kolta> They do better in the cold than in the heat
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, well the inverter, is of course, working with a battery.
1CAVERAT> my friend had an imac so that was pulling pretty hard on the battery
ROYCE3:Royce3> The Imac pulls a lot of current?
1CAVERAT> not really intended for portable use, but you go with what you got
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, that is true.
1CAVERAT> Royce, it doesnt pull that much, but the inverter and all also
increases the load
KOLTA:Kolta> I was told never use just the battery on my Apple lap top.
Always plug it in.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I see.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Now why would that be, Kolta?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Seems strange.
1CAVERAT> we were kind of improvising and was not as efficient as it could
have been
KOLTA:Kolta> The battery drains too quickly
ROYCE3:Royce3> ok
ROYCE3:Royce3> Now that Harder obviously needs help, are any of you intending
to lend some support?
1CAVERAT> Kolta is right. Most manufacturers recommend plugging in when
power is available
ROYCE3:Royce3> Are any of you getting in touch with her?
DORCASQ> I have volunteered to help.
KOLTA:Kolta> I will. I will still put my vote with her, even though she will
not win
1CAVERAT> im not totally convinced to support her
DORCASQ> But whoever is handling the volunteers must not be very good at it.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, then I take it that you have filled out all of the
necessary forms?
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Perhaps we can dicuss her candidacy next week
DORCASQ> I talked to someone on the phone and said I wanted to be a volunteer
but didn't get anywhere...
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, we might do that next week. However, as with many other
subjects, I'm not sure many people have an interest. And that is a shame.
DORCASQ> I gave him all my information then received some literature in the
mail but nothing specific to do, just more forms asking if I wanted to be a
volunteer.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I gather that you called a second time?
DORCASQ> I think you have to BUY all the stuff to send out to people.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I remember that you said the first fellow was brilliant.
DORCASQ> Yea, real brilliant.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Aaaaahhhhh, damn! Buy the stuff?
DORCASQ> That is the impression I got.
DORCASQ> And pay for your own copying, postage, etc.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, that is a deadly situation. I doubt many people are
going to do that.
DORCASQ> I'm not going to volunteer my time and then have to spend money too.
KOLTA:Kolta> Maybe they do not have the money to send it out
1CAVERAT> i think thats how shes supporting her campaign
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, has all of this disuaded you from going further with the
project, Dorcasq.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Will you call again?
DORCASQ> I'm not sure yet, Royce.
DORCASQ> I'm thinking it over.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Kolta, how about you?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Might you volunteer?
KOLTA:Kolta> I might not actively compaign, but I will vote for her and talk
about her
DORCASQ> They want people to come to NH to help...
DORCASQ> said they would have housing for them.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, let's see.... I don't think she is automatically going
to be on the ballot. In fact, I know she's not.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> NH is over with
ROYCE3:Royce3> Not in PA.
DORCASQ> No, that is mainly what they need help with - getting her on.
ROYCE3:Royce3> She will have to have a lot of help here in PA.
KOLTA:Kolta> True, I will check into it
DORCASQ> I'm sorry - Indiana
ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm not sure how many signatures she will need. It will be
considerable.
ROYCE3:Royce3> What about Indiana?
1CAVERAT> when is the Pa filing deadline?
DORCASQ> That is where their headquarters are.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm not sure of the PA filing deadline.
1CAVERAT> should be soon if it hasnt passed
ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't know where she might have the most potential to pull
votes, maybe among the college crowd.
DORCASQ> Women?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I think you are right ,cave.
KOLTA:Kolta> I like to travel. It would be worth going up for 2 to 3 days
DORCASQ> They want people for the duration, Kolta.
ROYCE3:Royce3> She might draw some of the women because she is a woman. But I
don't think that will help her alot.
KOLTA:Kolta> Well, i have responsibilities here
DORCASQ> Of course.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Most people don't like hitting the road.
DORCASQ> I could do it - it could be fun!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Is she slated to be back on the Art Bell show soon, Jeff?
KOLTA:Kolta> I cannot do it long term
DORCASQ> They will pay the people a little bit.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Dorcasq, would you seriously consider going on the road?
DORCASQ> Plus the housing
DORCASQ> Not on the road - just to work in IN
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hmmmmm, I wonder what the housing will be like.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> - signed off -
1CAVERAT> D will need a mobil link next
DORCASQ> Yes!!!
ROYCE3:Royce3> What sort of a mobile link are you talking about, cave?
1CAVERAT> computer link like I was testing
ROYCE3:Royce3> They probably have some old mobile homes.
DORCASQ> Yes, I can just imagine, Royce.
DORCASQ> If even THAT nice.
ROYCE3:Royce3> yes, they may be issuing tents.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Teepees.
1CAVERAT> outdoor plumbing!!
KOLTA:Kolta> Tents?????
DORCASQ> It is cold there too!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Jeff, how about you? Would you be willing to hit the road?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I will send in your form if you want.
KOLTA:Kolta> I think Jeff was bumped
ROYCE3:Royce3> Oh, yes, that's right.
DORCASQ> Jeff is not here
DORCASQ> Maybe he hit the road already.
KOLTA:Kolta> Pay attention Royce
KOLTA:Kolta> There he goes!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Oh, I did see him disappear.
DORCASQ> You only have 4 people to keep track of Royce!
ROYCE3:Royce3> I just sent him an ICQ note.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, you are right, Dorcasq. This is a slow night.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I think it is clear that we need to change times for chats, if
not days.
KOLTA:Kolta> A very slow night
DORCASQ> Maybe we should change the Wed. chats to Tuesday.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Gee, I don't know Dorcasq. What do the rest of you think?
KOLTA:Kolta> Then what do we do with Tues chats?
DORCASQ> What I'm saying is - just one a week.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I am up for any and all suggestions.
KOLTA:Kolta> It is hard to have chats 2 nights in a row
DORCASQ> ONCE A WEEK IS ENOUGH
KOLTA:Kolta> - signed off -
ROYCE3:Royce3> We could go for just once a week.
1CAVERAT> why not tues and sat?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, maybe Sat.
1CAVERAT> leaves a couple days in between
DORCASQ> Anything would be better than two in a row.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I think you have a good point, Dorcasq.
DORCASQ> I said that at the very beginning
ROYCE3:Royce3> Sat could be good, although I'm not sure that I want to commit
my Saturdays.
DORCASQ> I know, Saturdays could be tough.
ROYCE3:Royce3> At the very beginning we had bigger turnouts.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Even now, I'm not sure what the poor turnout means.
DORCASQ> Yes, we did, you would think it would be the other way around.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm not following what you are asking.
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DORCASQ> But then maybe that should tell us something...?
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Joasha
JOASHA:Joasha> heyla
DORCASQ> Hi Joasha
ROYCE3:Royce3> We are talking about changing days and times, Joasha. Please
weigh in on the matter.
KOLTA:Kolta> Glad to see you, Joasha!
ROYCE3:Royce3> We are now getting too few people.
DORCASQ> Tell the truth, Jo, IS IT US?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, next week we will be starting the Wed. chat at 7:00
KOLTA:Kolta> We should see if that helps first
1CAVERAT> 7 to when, royce?
ROYCE3:Royce3> 8:30
1CAVERAT> ok
JOASHA:Joasha> not many people are using chat rooms anymore. there is too
much confusion and disruption to be able to do anything of a complex or
serious nature without interruption
JOASHA:Joasha> this is literally the only chatroom I go into anymore.
DORCASQ> hmmm, that is interesting.
1CAVERAT> dont even seem to be as many trolls
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, you may be right, Joasha.
DORCASQ> That is true, Cave
ROYCE3:Royce3> No the trolls are few in number.
DORCASQ> Even the trolls deserted us.
KOLTA:Kolta> We have not had a troll in a long time
ROYCE3:Royce3> But the chats are about the only interactive thing going.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Kolta, knock on wood!
DORCASQ> We could use a good one now and then.
KOLTA:Kolta> Yes!
1CAVERAT> troll???
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, it is hard to attract quality people. We have an
excellent group here, however.
1CAVERAT> yes
ROYCE3:Royce3> People like to hear themselves talk. And after they blow their
horns, they often don't come back. They really aren't in the mood to learn.
KOLTA:Kolta> Quality does count for more than quantity
JOASHA:Joasha> this is a wonderful group
DORCASQ> Yes I think so too, Jo.
ROYCE3:Royce3> My feeling is that we need to constantly be learning and
forming new ideas. Yes, Joasha, i feel as though this were an extended family.
KOLTA:Kolta> This is a great group!
DORCASQ> It is nice to get new people with new ideas though.
ROYCE3:Royce3> But we still have to be ready to adapt. And the time changes
are an example.
JOASHA:Joasha> I am flying to Santa Fe next Thursday to go the Acupuncture
Hospital School
ROYCE3:Royce3> Very good, Joasha.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Are you going for training or treatment?
DORCASQ> Are you going to teach or learn?
KOLTA:Kolta> How long will you be there?
JOASHA:Joasha> I do believe that I am on to the path that is going to get rid
of this asthma
DORCASQ> Oh good!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Wonderful.
JOASHA:Joasha> of course quitting the cigs was the first step.
KOLTA:Kolta> Maybe we should put Joasha on our prayer list
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, the cigs can be a problem.
JOASHA:Joasha> and I still do miss them so much
DORCASQ> Do you want to be on our list, Jo?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I can imagine that you do, Joasha. That's natural enough.
JOASHA:Joasha> but.....the price of health is.........
ROYCE3:Royce3> As a side note: Jeff says he is on his way back.
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello Jeff.
KOLTA:Kolta> Here Jeff is!!!!
JOASHA:Joasha> and then I am probably going to have to visit the fat farm
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> - signed off -
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DORCASQ> The fat farm, ha, ha
JOASHA:Joasha> oye vey
ROYCE3:Royce3> Have you gained weight as a result of having stopped smoking?
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> - signed off -
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JOASHA:Joasha> yep
ROYCE3:Royce3> That's par for the course.
JOASHA:Joasha> and it came fast
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> hello
DORCASQ> Do you actually eat a lot more now?
KOLTA:Kolta> Hi Jeff!
JOASHA:Joasha> those pounds were waiting on my doorstep
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hey you women should be like the guys and start using snuff!
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> i had trouble returning
KOLTA:Kolta> Snuff! Oh Yuch!!!!
JOASHA:Joasha> my gramma used snuff till the day she passed over
DORCASQ> Snuff just wouldn't be the same..psychologically.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Actually, I don't know how anyone stands it--snuff that is.
JOASHA:Joasha> me either
ROYCE3:Royce3> A lot of women in the south used to use it. My grandmother
used to tell me about that when I was a kid.
JOASHA:Joasha> they used to use it for acid stomachs. but very addicting
1CAVERAT> i work with a snuff user. trouble is, he never spits!!
JOASHA:Joasha> yuck
ROYCE3:Royce3> And, of course, in early times they would snort it.
ROYCE3:Royce3> That was the original way to use it.
DORCASQ> It is better if he doesn't spit isn't it?
1CAVERAT> cleaner, anyway!!
DORCASQ> It is the spitting I don't like.
JOASHA:Joasha> can you imagine what his stomach looks like
DORCASQ> I guess I shouldn't exhale.
JOASHA:Joasha> hehehehe
KOLTA:Kolta> Snuff can cause just as much damage as cigarettes
ROYCE3:Royce3> My grandfather died in his late eighties. He chewed MailPouch
tobacco all of his life. He never spit.
ROYCE3:Royce3> God, I don't know how he did it.
JOASHA:Joasha> anyway, Kolta....am going to be at the Hospital for 5 days.
and they are going to teach me how to use the needles on myself so I can
continue treatments at home
ROYCE3:Royce3> Joasha, that is most interesting. I hope you will report on
that.
KOLTA:Kolta> That sounds good, Jo
JOASHA:Joasha> oh, I am excited. love to learn new things
ROYCE3:Royce3> But wasn't there anywhere closer to home for the treatment?
KOLTA:Kolta> Do you want on our prayer list?
JOASHA:Joasha> Royce, remember my tribal connections are out there
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JOASHA:Joasha> Thank you Kolta, I would really appreciate that very much
ROYCE3:Royce3> I sort of guessed that might be the situation, Joasha. Well
you should have a wonderful trip.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello odys
1CAVERAT> Kolta, any special meetings coming up with the discussion group?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Special meetings?
1CAVERAT> topics, etc.
ROYCE3:Royce3> You mean the UFO Forum on Fridays?
1CAVERAT> yes
KOLTA:Kolta> They still go on, on Fridays
ROYCE3:Royce3> Odys, how are you today?
ROYCE3:Royce3> There will be a special meeting at the Mandala store soon.
KOLTA:Kolta> On Feb. 17th
ROYCE3:Royce3> That is one of the high points.
KOLTA:Kolta> 7 to 10
KOLTA:Kolta> In the evening
ROYCE3:Royce3> Given the state of affairs with the Mandala store, there may
not be too many more meetings there.
JOASHA:Joasha> what is the meeting about?
1CAVERAT> where is that?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Oakland, Cave.
KOLTA:Kolta> South Craig street in Oakland
ROYCE3:Royce3> Kolta , what is on the agenda?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't believe I have heard.
KOLTA:Kolta> Abductions
JOASHA:Joasha> we have a Mandorlah store here that is closing interesting no
DORCASQ> Yes
ODYS:Odys> Hi.Why is it some people see ufo's all the time and other's never
see them
JOASHA:Joasha> that is a really wonderful question Odys
1CAVERAT> good question, Odys
DORCASQ> I always wondered that too.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Odys, Jung would suggest it is because some people are more
sensitive than others to cosmic projections.
KOLTA:Kolta> Difficult question to answer
1CAVERAT> I have been investigating for 25 years and have never seen one
personally
JOASHA:Joasha> so what is everyone's take on this?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I have always thought that we see UFOs through portals.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I guess I'm close to Jung's point of view. Jack Vallee's, too.
KOLTA:Kolta> I think The ETs are also careful about who they let see them
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> the ETs select the person they want to see UFOs
DORCASQ> I think we have to be in the right state of mind to see them.
ODYS:Odys> Jung.....cosmic projections.....like holograms?
KOLTA:Kolta> Jeff, we agree!!!!
1CAVERAT> royce, define portal in this context
KOLTA:Kolta> - signed off -
JOASHA:Joasha> I believe that they are seen when it is important to the
individual's or community's growth
ROYCE3:Royce3> Possibly, odys. Yes, that is part of the senario.
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JOASHA:Joasha> or as a validation to the growth
DORCASQ> Have you ever seen one, Odys?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Jung suggested that UFOs are projections of
consciousness--consciousness can actually affect material reality.
JOASHA:Joasha> or to support the individual/community in their purpose
JOASHA:Joasha> or just to say hi once in a while
KOLTA:Kolta> I like that last one Joasha
ODYS:Odys> What do the other parts of the scenario tell us.....Can't be sure
if I have, Dorcasq.
ROYCE3:Royce3> And it is true that some see them much more often than others.
JOASHA:Joasha> me too Sis. hehe
KOLTA:Kolta> :-)
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, according to the recent report by French researchers, a
report mandated by the French government, UFOs are real in the physical sense
and possibly pose a threat to humanity.
ODYS:Odys> I mean briefly, Royce.
JOASHA:Joasha> .
KOLTA:Kolta> I find it hard to believe that most of them are a threat.
Although some are.
DORCASQ> Why do you say you "can't be sure if you have", Odys?
ODYS:Odys> But in no way we would imagine. Right??
DORCASQ> It is possible to imagine things.
JOASHA:Joasha> you have to be able to 'image' to see
ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm not sure I understand your last question, Odys.
ODYS:Odys> You see strange things sometimes and it's easy to jump to
conclusions
DORCASQ> Imagination could be more real than reality.
JOASHA:Joasha> yep
KOLTA:Kolta> That is true odys
1CAVERAT> Odys, what do you think you saw?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, a large percentage of UFO sightings can be explained
away. Certainly, no one here will dispute that.
ODYS:Odys> Well you say they are a threat. But if they were going to do us
with ray guns they would have done that by now.
DORCASQ> Yes, you would think so.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Odys, there are a lot of different sorts of threats.
KOLTA:Kolta> That is also true Odys. they have been around for a long time
ROYCE3:Royce3> Ray guns and related items don't necessarily figure into the
equation.
1CAVERAT> Odys, In your opinion, what are they and what do they want?
ODYS:Odys> Large triangular slow moving thing.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Furthermore, I hesitate to predict the furture on past
experiences.
1CAVERAT> Where and when?
KOLTA:Kolta> Let Odys tell what she saw!
ODYS:Odys> Very smart critters with no souls???
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> - signed off -
DORCASQ> How long ago did you see the large triangular thing, Odys?
1CAVERAT> Why do you say that, Odys.
ODYS:Odys> 1978, or there abouts.
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JEFFLOVE999> hello
DORCASQ> Where was it?
KOLTA:Kolta> Why do you think they have no souls?
JEFFLOVE999> anyone here
ODYS:Odys> Well what would they be doing here if they did not need something
from us. Something they could not just take with their superior technology.
KOLTA:Kolta> Good question Jeff
ROYCE3:Royce3> Jeff, why do scientists here study ant hills?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't know that the aliens necessarily need something from
us.
JEFFLOVE999> curiousity
1CAVERAT> Odys, where did you see the object
ODYS:Odys> The object was in Massachusetts.
1CAVERAT> Odys, what time of day was it?
ODYS:Odys> Ants are natures commies
ODYS:Odys> Early evening.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, you could say that, Odys.
KOLTA:Kolta> Ants do have a collective mindset
1CAVERAT> Odys, why did you say they had no souls?
ODYS:Odys> The collective vs individuals??
KOLTA:Kolta> Yes, with ants
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DORCASQ> Hi Barry
ODYS:Odys> Well they have no free will....ants I mean.
BARRY328:Barry Smith> Hi, everyone
DORCASQ> You are just in time for closing, Barry.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Gang, I hate to break things up but it is closing time. We
will meet here again at 6:00 on Tuesday 6:00EDT.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Barry, welcome. I'm sorry you came so late.
ROYCE3:Royce3> We are about to close the doors.
DORCASQ> Yes, have to go now too, goodnight everyone!
KOLTA:Kolta> With the collective they might. I was just making a general
observation that is not necessarily true of us
ROYCE3:Royce3> Anyway thanks everyone.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Thanks Dorcasq
BARRY328:Barry Smith> I'll stop in again sometime..thanks...Roswell is on
tonight.
DORCASQ> Thank you - Bye
1CAVERAT> gotta go now, will catch you later!
DORCASQ> - signed off -
ROYCE3:Royce3> Good night all. Stick around if you want. But I have to leave.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Take care all
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