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KOLTA:Kolta> But a little nippy out.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, it is a bit nippy.
KOLTA:Kolta> I saw Jeff got his curser back in order yesterday.
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Jeff is up and running.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Steve
KOLTA:Kolta> Hi Steve
STEVE6101> hello Kolta and Royce
ROYCE3:Royce3> How is your day going Steve?
STEVE6101> slow but that is ok
ROYCE3:Royce3> And how is the weather out your way Steve?
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ROYCE3:Royce3> We had a few snow flurries today.
KOLTA:Kolta> Hi Bauble
ROYCE3:Royce3> hello bauble
STEVE6101> a little snow this morning ,but warmed up to 36 today
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Hello Everyone!
BAUBLE49:Bauble> We had snow too, Steve!
STEVE6101> hi Bauble
ROYCE3:Royce3> That will melt some snow, Steve.
STEVE6101> yes
STEVE6101> it is nice I just don't like the in between ,
STEVE6101> when we lived in lake Tahoe the snow stayed for 4 to5 months
KOLTA:Kolta> Wow!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Someone told me that there is a volcanic eruption at the south
pole that is causing a lot of ice to break loose. I haven't been following
that story too closely, but it appears to be adding more
ROYCE3:Royce3> concern to the global warming situation.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Steve, you mentioned last evening that you had to tend to
the horse/s or pony/s. Do you raise them or are they your pets?
STEVE6101> nothing to get 6 feet in one night
STEVE6101> Pets for Joni and our Daughter Nadine
BAUBLE49:Bauble> ty
STEVE6101> Nadine and Tipsy(her horse ) won a blue ribbon at the fair this
year
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hey, all right.
STEVE6101> it was cool
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Is there a lot of work to having horses for pets?
STEVE6101> yes
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hey bauble, you think the litter box for the cats is bad.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> And I think my litter box is bad!!!
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Now we have to make a wish Royce..
STEVE6101> but we have them in a 15 arce pasture now with a river running
through it
ROYCE3:Royce3> The River Runs Through--that was the title of a movie.
STEVE6101> but shoeing shots feed it can add up
STEVE6101> yes
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, have you ever thought of shoeing them yourself?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Oh, yes, I can believe that
KOLTA:Kolta> I also bet it is expensive to feed them
BAUBLE49:Bauble> You could learn blacksmithing Steve!!!!
ROYCE3:Royce3> I understand that there's good money in that line of work.
STEVE6101> no wouldn't put the horse through that It is something we let the
pro's do
ROYCE3:Royce3> Are you a horse racing fan, Steve?
STEVE6101> Farriers do make decetn money if they are good
BAUBLE49:Bauble> He's a computer guy Royce not a hammer and nails guy
ROYCE3:Royce3> I used to be a car guy in a past life.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I got tired of that though.
STEVE6101> no ,I like hammer and nails ,since we do build furniture also
STEVE6101> no haorse racing
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Oh, that's right. And it looks like you do good work also
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I saw the desk
STEVE6101> the pasture feeds them most of the year ,we suppiment in winter
STEVE6101> ty
KOLTA:Kolta> You saw the desk, did you, Bauble?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> He sent a picture to Royce
KOLTA:Kolta> ok
ROYCE3:Royce3> Bauble's cousin has a company that makes various kinds of
display cases. God the automation is awesome. It used to be that such display
cases were made pretty much as I made them in my woodshop.
ROYCE3:Royce3> That's not the case anymore. Every thing in his shop is
computer controlled.
STEVE6101> going to be away for a few minutes
ROYCE3:Royce3> Ok
ROYCE3:Royce3> I wonder where Jeff Love is?
STEVE6101> my wife controls the computer
BAUBLE49:Bauble> A friend of ours makes Catbeds Kolta
KOLTA:Kolta> Neither of my cats use beds. I have a cat bed in my bedroom and
it is totally ignored.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Yes, they like paper and plastic bags too. Not that store
bought stuff
KOLTA:Kolta> George likes newspapers and will lay on them as you are trying
to read it.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Our Conan and Ivory like to sit on books.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Especially when you are trying to read them.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> These beds are make out of oak and cherry wood., One is a
bunkbed and the others has a canepee
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, the beds are nice to look at.
KOLTA:Kolta> Diane likes to get behind the books on the shelves. Then she
makes me pull her out.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> She is trying to become educated, Kolta
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello, Seek, welcome
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello Jeff, welcome.
SEEKINGTHETR> hello
KOLTA:Kolta> She is trying to make me give her some attention
BAUBLE49:Bauble> It's a slow night here tonight Seek
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> hello everyone
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Hi Jeff
KOLTA:Kolta> Hi Jeff and Seeking
SEEKINGTHETR> hi kolta
ROYCE3:Royce3> Does anyone want to address a specific topic tonight?
ROYCE3:Royce3> This is the open chat night so we can be pretty open.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm curious about the way the occult has been pretty much
swept under the rug in our culture.
SEEKINGTHETR> because of its past misuse
KOLTA:Kolta> No one wants to deal with the occult. A lot of fear there.
SEEKINGTHETR> and potential misuse
ROYCE3:Royce3> Despite all, there is invariably an undercurrent of activity
at all times, especially in the metropolitan areas.
ROYCE3:Royce3> There's also a lot of misinformation.
KOLTA:Kolta> That is true Royce
ROYCE3:Royce3> Even the term means different things to different people.
ROYCE3:Royce3> That was the case yesterday when we broached the topic of
sorcery.
KOLTA:Kolta> Well, there has been a lot of abuse of sorcery.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Then we seem to have people who like to primarily approach the
subject from an academic point of view.
SEEKINGTHETR> the system is set up in a way that those who misuse it get
burned
ROYCE3:Royce3> Does anyone here know of anyone who has been victimized by
sorcery.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> no
SEEKINGTHETR> the path gets narrower the higher you go
KOLTA:Kolta> I am glad to hear that Seeking
ROYCE3:Royce3> I mean in a very specific fashion?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I can't say that I can point to anyone in particular--with one
exception.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> what do you mean, Seek that the path gets narrower
ROYCE3:Royce3> There is one lady who may be a victim of sorcery.
KOLTA:Kolta> I don't know of anyone.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I wonder if many people approach the subject in a studied,
practical way. As you know, Nazis were supposed to have turned to the occult.
ROYCE3:Royce3> But can we believe those reports?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I have read some pretty convincing material.
SEEKINGTHETR> sorry, was away making dinner
ROYCE3:Royce3> Ok
BAUBLE49:Bauble> If they did, it worked at first
ROYCE3:Royce3> yes, I get the impression that it worked.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I mean even Hitler's rise to power was an amazing occurrence.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> I believe there are three interests who are in
opposition
SEEKINGTHETR> narrow path, in that the more gifts you are given, the more you
are held accountable for your actions
ROYCE3:Royce3> How is that, Jeff?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Thanks, S
KOLTA:Kolta> That makes sense Seeking
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, Seek, what about the Nazis and their reputed association
with the occult?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Is it fact or fiction?
SEEKINGTHETR> don't know much about them
ROYCE3:Royce3> There is a rather complete book about it. It is called the
Spear Of Destiny.
SEEKINGTHETR> but what they did to the Jews sure gave them a lot of karma
ROYCE3:Royce3> the author's name escapes me at the moment.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> 1. mainstream natural science the believe is that the
universe is a natural universe without a transcendental realm or god or gods
KOLTA:Kolta> Although, Hitler's rise to power is as much a product of
historical circumstances as anything else
ROYCE3:Royce3> But it was a well written book.
STEVE6101> - signed off -
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> 2. fundamentalists believe the occult is a tool of
Satan/Lucifer
SEEKINGTHETR> if you look at the cycle of consciousness shifts, we will soon
be ready as a society for another person like hitler
ROYCE3:Royce3> Kolta, I'm not really sure that Hitler appeared just because
of social conditions. However, it is a common opinion.
KOLTA:Kolta> How is that Seeking?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Mussiline and Stalin were no slouches in the persecution
area. Never heard that they were involved in the occult. Guess they will
still have karma and have to answer for their actions.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Of course, an argument can be made that Pol Pot, the Cambodian
leader associated with the infamous "killing fields" was another Hitler.
KOLTA:Kolta> Right Bauble
ROYCE3:Royce3> At least he was as evil.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> 3. Certain elements of the elite use the evil part of
the transcendental realm for their purposes. Revelation would open a
Pandora's box.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Maybe not as skilled.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Now Jeff brings us an interesting point.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Do the elite, whoever they may be, really use the occult to
get their way?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Can anyone address that question?
KOLTA:Kolta> And who are the elite?
SEEKINGTHETR> you never use evil without it using you
ROYCE3:Royce3> See, Kolta, that is the real question, isn't it?
KOLTA:Kolta> True Seeking
ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't think they are the people in the news--not Al Gore or
George Bush.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> listen to the Jeff tape about the Bohemian Grove
Organization. It is very freightening.
KOLTA:Kolta> You have a point Royce
ROYCE3:Royce3> Oh, the bohemian Grove deal is astonishing. I still don't
understand what that is all about.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Space is too short to explain the workings of that group.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> Bush are regulars of the Bohemian Grove.
ROYCE3:Royce3> There are sure occult aspects to it.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, i just don't think either Bush or Gore are leading the
elite.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Some people have no conscience so if they do evil, they
wouldn't even recognize the deed as such. And then what is the definition of
evil anyway?
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> no
ROYCE3:Royce3> I think Bauble has a point.
KOLTA:Kolta> A very good point
ROYCE3:Royce3> An evil person may pay for his deeds in the end, but the
effect on society will be profound.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Society is in my view very much like a stage play.
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> They believe their purposes and ends are good. They can
use the demons of the realms to achieve them.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Mine isn't a new idea, however.
SEEKINGTHETR> it is not ours to judge what is evil
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That's right, Jeff. They think they are doing good.
ROYCE3:Royce3> But if we look at society, we know that we have a lot of
people who sure don't fall into the love and light category.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I think some of these people do have occult powers.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That was my next question, Seek, Who do we set up as a judge?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I am curious as to how this power weaves its way in and out of
everyday activities.
KOLTA:Kolta> But there are those who have occult powers who do fall in the
love and light category
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes.
SEEKINGTHETR> I have found that if I do not allow myself to get angry with
people who have done me wrong, that their karma accelerates
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Interessting
ROYCE3:Royce3> Like many others, I can appreciate the moral message
concerning self development. But I do wonder about the "dark side" if you
will, from an academic standpoint.
KOLTA:Kolta> If we get angry at whoever has done us wrong, are we not
letting them have power over us?
SEEKINGTHETR> yes kolta
ROYCE3:Royce3> Falun Dafa talks a lot about accelerating the karma of those
who do us wrong, Seek.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> So if we still hanker for revenge on someone we should truly
love them..
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> it freihgtens me that political leaders can use the
dark side and disguise theselves as noble christians
SEEKINGTHETR> yes Bauble, but motive will determine if we have truly forgiven
SEEKINGTHETR> lol,,,true jeff
KOLTA:Kolta> What goes around, comes around, Baulbe. They will get theirs
without our anger. I have seen it happen.
SEEKINGTHETR> like during the crusades
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I read that Jesus accepted even the worst in society
KOLTA:Kolta> Bauble
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, how many books have been written about the Masons and
the evil of their ways? Now is most of that just pure nonsense? I tend to
think so. However, could there be a tiny minority who are, in
ROYCE3:Royce3> fact, practitioners of the occult--of what we call black magic?
KOLTA:Kolta> That is right Bauble
KOLTA:Kolta> White magic is occult also Royce
SEEKINGTHETR> not in the beginning, bauble
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Kolta, I agree.
SEEKINGTHETR> he grew much
BAUBLE49:Bauble> As long as they truly repented they would be forgiven..I
took that to mean --no karma
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> people who love power and wordly success and wealth
will do anything to bring them to themselves and disguise their strategies
ROYCE3:Royce3> Does anyone have an opinion about secret societies?
KOLTA:Kolta> There is good karma as well as bad karma
SEEKINGTHETR> Bauble, that is why I am against the death penalty
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Yes, I can understand why, Seek
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> as outsiders we have limited knowledge, because the
notes of their meetings are secret to the general public
SEEKINGTHETR> I joke that if someone kills me I will go in their head and
pray for them...
KOLTA:Kolta> Yes, and all a tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye does is
to make the whole world blind and toothless
BAUBLE49:Bauble> And you are right about intentions. If we wanted revenge and
tried to send love. the 'gods ' would see our true intention
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That's good Kolta!
SEEKINGTHETR> I do demonstrations to teach how forgiveness works
ROYCE3:Royce3> Regarding love and light aren't we preaching to the choir here?
KOLTA:Kolta> Thanks Bauble
KOLTA:Kolta> Yes, Royce, but it still needs to be said.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> How many can really graduate from your class, Seek..
SEEKINGTHETR> lol...we never graduate
SEEKINGTHETR> when we do, we are not here
KOLTA:Kolta> We just continue to grow then
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I mean, how can we get the 'knowing'
SEEKINGTHETR> yes, even after death
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> that is true, if reincarnation and karma are reality
principles of the human cycle
BAUBLE49:Bauble> What type of demonstrations do you do to teach forgivness?
SEEKINGTHETR> Darwin was wrong in his theory of evolution..it is really an
evolution of consciousness that manifests physical change
BAUBLE49:Bauble> that's right Jeff
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Oh, I like that Seek. It seems so CORRECT!!!!~
SEEKINGTHETR> I demonstrate by having a person imagine a large object, such
as a door or tree somewhere between myself and them, approx 30 to 40 feet
apart
SEEKINGTHETR> I walk toward them and show them where their imagined object is
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> there is a brillant master of the planes. he teaches
real evolution is on the conscious level. his name is Dwjal Kuhl.
SEEKINGTHETR> then I have them close their eyes and imagine the object
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> khul
SEEKINGTHETR> then I push it to the side....they go with it to the same side
SEEKINGTHETR> my point is that they are attached to their thoughts
SEEKINGTHETR> just as you are when you are angry at someone
SEEKINGTHETR> they are controlling you
BAUBLE49:Bauble> very good, Seek
SEEKINGTHETR> blows their minds
SEEKINGTHETR> interesting thing is, it is easier for me to do it with people
who are very logical and doubt the process
BAUBLE49:Bauble> wonder why that is
SEEKINGTHETR> their thought forms are well defined
BAUBLE49:Bauble> oh, ok
SEEKINGTHETR> feminine thoughts are usually much softer and fuzzy
BAUBLE49:Bauble> fuzzy logic
SEEKINGTHETR> not as well defined to my feel
ROYCE3:Royce3> Under what circumstances do you hold these demonstrations?
SEEKINGTHETR> I was doing this once for a large group, and all of a sudden I
walked into someone elses imagined tree...that is when I found out that each
person has a specific thought frequency
SEEKINGTHETR> It varies royce
SEEKINGTHETR> just trying to help people grow
SEEKINGTHETR> to empower them
ROYCE3:Royce3> Do you do this as a teaching process or for therapy or both?
SEEKINGTHETR> both, depends on the situation
SEEKINGTHETR> if I feel their thought and it is very heavy, I can reach into
the thought and say a prayer to lighten them up
ROYCE3:Royce3> Although I agree with your theory on Darwinism, it is an
unpopular view.
SEEKINGTHETR> the heavy emotion is gone
KOLTA:Kolta> Do you ask permission before you do this Seeking?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Do you ever follow up on these people to see if they not
only learned the teachings, but, also used them to help themselves?
SEEKINGTHETR> desire formulates consciousness, which manifests the physical
SEEKINGTHETR> sometimes, but I give with no strings attached, thus they are
free to use it as they may
BAUBLE49:Bauble> So why, if someone desires to be well it usually doesn't
happen
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi steve.
JONI186> hi
KOLTA:Kolta> brb
BAUBLE49:Bauble> hi Steve welcome back
JONI186> don't know why joni's name
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> why does so much bad happen to people?
SEEKINGTHETR> good question Bauble...because usually the conscious mind wants
to be well while the subconscious wants to go through the experience
ROYCE3:Royce3> I was trying to get an opinion about secret societies, Steve.
Do you think groups like the Masons are really involved in occult activities?
JONI186> because there are bad people
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Maybe we desire bad or think we deserve bad, jeff
SEEKINGTHETR> the subcons overrides
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Maybe that is it Seek
JONI186> as in witchcraft or that sort of thing
SEEKINGTHETR> I have found this in testing women who are attracted toward
abusive men
SEEKINGTHETR> their mind says stay away..but if they close their eyes and I
project an abusive personality at them, they come forward toward me fast
JONI186> knew one mason that I know of
BAUBLE49:Bauble> So that may be why so many of those women can't leave. Plus
fear..!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Only one, Steve? Well, I guess it is hard to draw many
conclusions from that. As for abusive relationships, I sense that both
people draw something that they need from them.
JONI186> from what I gather no,as far as the groups
SEEKINGTHETR> rule from God to cleanse us......we are attracted toward those
personalities that are similar to those that we have unresolved conflict with
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I assume yuo don't mean they come toward you physically,
Seek?
KOLTA:Kolta> back
SEEKINGTHETR> they sure do Bauble..many times it knocks them off their feet
SEEKINGTHETR> when I'm several feet away from them
BAUBLE49:Bauble> No kidding!!
ROYCE3:Royce3> It does seem that people who get out of abusive relationships
frequently fall back into new relationships that are very similar--that is,
new abusive relationships.
SEEKINGTHETR> yes royce, for the reason I mentioned above
BAUBLE49:Bauble> We go through what we need to go through
KOLTA:Kolta> Could it be that these people need to improve their self-image?
SEEKINGTHETR> yes, but with knowledge and understanding we can do it quickly
without the discomfort
JONI186> but they are attracted to them ,but that doesn't mean that type of
person is good for them
SEEKINGTHETR> no. it is merely a person that can help them in their role play
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That person is helping them and themselves work out their
Karma, Steve
ROYCE3:Royce3> I suspect that some masochistic and sadistic actions are
taking place at a psycho sexual level. Certainly, some people are now into
S&M and it is even acceptable in the eyes of some
ROYCE3:Royce3> psychotherapists, if both partners consent. Well maybe there
is always a certain degree of consent in abusive relationships.
SEEKINGTHETR> yes Bauble, but also, many times the other person is attracted
for the complimentary lesson
JONI186> why always so much pain involved,emotinal and physical
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Now all each of us needs to do is get knowledge and
understanding of ourselves and all will be well in our little world....
SEEKINGTHETR> if a person develops a premature self identity with guilt, it
reverses their reward punishment function
SEEKINGTHETR> they are positively stimulated by criticism and negatively by
praise
KOLTA:Kolta> That is interesting Seeking
SEEKINGTHETR> this happens to children when they are young and the parents
get divorced if they cannot blame one of the parents
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That's convoluted thinking to me. I need time to digest that
JONI186> what about their children is that part of their kharma to
SEEKINGTHETR> if a self identity develops prior to development of critical
thinking skills it is usually negative
JONI186> why
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Quite interesting, Seek
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Can't blame the parents so they think it's thier fault
SEEKINGTHETR> using some of the techniques I mentioned earlier, I profile a
persons psychological development from birth through any age in a few
minutes, no words or touch used
SEEKINGTHETR> strictly sub conscious response
BAUBLE49:Bauble> excelllent!
SEEKINGTHETR> kind of like x rays do to bones
SEEKINGTHETR> I did demonstrations for a group of MD psychiatrists and it
scared them to death...lol
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Maybe psychologists should learn your techniques
SEEKINGTHETR> they saw their revenue going down the drain
BAUBLE49:Bauble> But they could help their clients so much quicker
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> money is more important than truth
SEEKINGTHETR> it's not time for society to understand it I guess
BAUBLE49:Bauble> And there is always more clients. No shortages
BAUBLE49:Bauble> brb
SEEKINGTHETR> if they could only look at the greater picture, everything is
easy to understand
SEEKINGTHETR> sorry to take up the chat time
KOLTA:Kolta> MDs have trouble looking at the whole person
KOLTA:Kolta> This is interesting Seeking
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> you should feel praise for your insight
SEEKINGTHETR> yes Kolta...also they tend to intellectualize emotion rather
than understand it
KOLTA:Kolta> True
BAUBLE49:Bauble> back
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Amroth
AMROTH1492:Amroth> hullo
AMROTH1492:Amroth> i have a question and its not aimed to critisize or
anything im just curious
KOLTA:Kolta> Go Amroth
ROYCE3:Royce3> Go ahead, Amroth.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Seek, have you ever given a talk/demonstration at a
Theosophy Society meeting
AMROTH1492:Amroth> you believe ine extraterrestrials correct?
KOLTA:Kolta> Right Amroth
AMROTH1492:Amroth> may i ask why
AMROTH1492:Amroth> what reason
AMROTH1492:Amroth> what proof have you seen
SEEKINGTHETR> I have been asked by a group in Tampa area by some of their
leaders, but the timing did not work out
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, there is a lot of evidence that they exist.
AMROTH1492:Amroth> like what?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Have you read the review of the French military on UFO? The
story was reviewed in the Boston Globe recently, Amroth.
SEEKINGTHETR> I met a few of their members at a psychology of religion
conference
AMROTH1492:Amroth> no im afraid i havnt
ROYCE3:Royce3> I can send you a copy of the article, Amroth. After reading
the article you might have a better understanding.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> We have a group that meets here every Sunday afternoon, Seek
AMROTH1492:Amroth> well i have read about UFO's and once i even believed in
them
SEEKINGTHETR> what kind of group?
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> - signed off -
ROYCE3:Royce3> You see there has been a lot of research on the topic, Amroth.
But it isn't a subject that the mainstream media reports on, unless they want
to do a hatchet job.
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AMROTH1492:Amroth> im not saying that somewhere out in the universe somewhere
there are not Martians
AMROTH1492:Amroth> im just saying it hasnt actually been proven
BAUBLE49:Bauble> The Theosophy Society meeting, Seek
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, you might want to read some of the Vedic literature. It
also lends credence to the notion that Ets exist.
AMROTH1492:Amroth> but you see look at it logically
ROYCE3:Royce3> Logically?
KOLTA:Kolta> We are all logical in this room Amroth
AMROTH1492:Amroth> think of the imense distance it would take to cover the
distance between stars
ROYCE3:Royce3> Logic means a lot of different things to different people.
AMROTH1492:Amroth> just think about that
SEEKINGTHETR> how many people usually attend
ROYCE3:Royce3> Cutting edge physics suggests that faster than light travel
may be possible.
AMROTH1492:Amroth> at the speed of light it takes 4 years to travel to the
nearest star
ROYCE3:Royce3> If that is the case, Amroth, distance may not be such a
problem.
JONI186> Bend space ,amroth
AMROTH1492:Amroth> thats just speculation joni
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> the attendence ranges from 20 to 40 people
ROYCE3:Royce3> Have you read about Bell's theorm, Amroth?
JONI186> doesn't mean its not true
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> theosophical society
AMROTH1492:Amroth> it definatly doesnt meen it is either
ROYCE3:Royce3> It discusses how light particles coordinate at faster than the
speed of light.
JONI186> higher pyhsics suggest that time and space can be bent
AMROTH1492:Amroth> are you famiar with the theory of reletivity?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Amroth, very much. Bell's theorm came long after
relativity.
SEEKINGTHETR> Royce...isn't it interesting how the universe expands like the
surface of a balloon without any known matter in the middle
SEEKINGTHETR> thus worm holes can be short cuts
ROYCE3:Royce3> Amroth if you give me an email address, I will send you the
French report.
ROYCE3:Royce3> You can start there.
AMROTH1492:Amroth> click on my name
ROYCE3:Royce3> If you enjoy that, i can refer you to other sources.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Frequently, that doesn't work, Amroth.
ROYCE3:Royce3> And I don't think I can use an attachment with the Delphi
forwarding system.
KOLTA:Kolta> I am having trouble typing in things
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> 7:30 7:30 7:30
KOLTA:Kolta> There goes Jeff
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, folks thank you all for coming. We have come to the end
of another chat. We will be back here next Tuesday at 6:00 Pm EST. You have
all been great. Goodnight all.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Well, I certainly enjoyed this evenings chat Thankyou
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> will ther chats next week thanksgiving week
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Yes
KOLTA:Kolta> Good question Jeff
JONI186> goodnight all
BAUBLE49:Bauble> bye Steve
JONI186> - signed off -
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> bye
KOLTA:Kolta> Have a nice evening all
AMROTH1492:Amroth> - signed off -
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Goodnight, All
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