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The following is the log of the remote viewing experiment that Jim Brown conducted with participants on the
Ufotalk-Time chat. Please see related material in the Et Cetera section of this web site. Additional comments are avialable on our Delphi message board. ** BAUBLE48 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (2 members now) **
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi bauble
BAUBLE48> Hello All
BAUBLE48> Is it just you and me Royce?
BAUBLE48> How cozy
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi dorcasq
DORCASQ> Hey there!
BAUBLE48> Did you read Caverats protocols?
DORCASQ> Yes, I just read them...
DORCASQ> It sounds like he expects us to start viewing before the chat is
over.
DORCASQ> And be done by 8:00
.Royce3> I think this may be a confusing remote viewing .
DORCASQ> I think so too!
.Royce3> I hope Kolta can participate.
DORCASQ> Does Cave think we can just sit here and chat and remote view at the
same time?
.Royce3> I'm not sure that Caverat is aware that the after chat chat starts
at 7:30
.Royce3> Another good question, Dork.
BAUBLE48> I said I'll get off at 7 PM to meditate and then come back at 8 PM
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.Royce3> Maybe Joasha will be here tonight. Or does she work today?
.Royce3> Hi Cave.
DORCASQ> I don't know about Joasha.
1CAVERAT> Hi All!
DORCASQ> Hi Caverat!
BAUBLE48> Hi
1CAVERAT> Every body here??
DORCASQ> I just read your msg. on the board..
1CAVERAT> any comments
DORCASQ> Well...I thought we weren't
BAUBLE48> I mentioned earlier that I would leave at 7 to meditate and be back
at 8
DORCASQ> going to view until the after chat at 7:30.
DORCASQ> Do you want us to start at 7:00?? I would have to get off the chat
to do it.
1CAVERAT> I thought since I was on site if any one wanted they could start
whenever they were ready
1CAVERAT> I will still be here after the chat
1CAVERAT> so it will work however you want to do it
DORCASQ> I want to make sure you understand, Cave...
BAUBLE48> Royce can make the after chat private so no others get on
1CAVERAT> I follow you, d
DORCASQ> I cannot stay on the computer and try to remote view at the same
time.
DORCASQ> I will have to get off and then come back on at a designated time.
1CAVERAT> I will stay available on line and chat with whoever wants to chat
while the rest view
BAUBLE48> OK
1CAVERAT> I will still be online at 8 though
DORCASQ> OK
1CAVERAT> It will be your call as to when you want to resume the chat
.Royce3> There's no problem in making the chat private. However, if someone
gets bumped I will have to open the room up in order to allow them in. We
could use a password system, but teaching people to use
.Royce3> that on short notice is impossible. I speak from experience on that
one.
BAUBLE48> OH
DORCASQ> Yea, that is a problem.
1CAVERAT> Royce, I could have problems if I get bumped since I will be remote
DORCASQ> Just being away from my computer, I will probably get knocked off.
1CAVERAT> I could go out and come in on PUSH though
.Royce3> You know how some people get bumped frequently. Yes, well I have to
wonder about the private room.
DORCASQ> If it is inactive that usually happens.
BAUBLE48> Get off the net Dorcas and come back at 8
BAUBLE48> That's what I will do
DORCASQ> Yes, Baub, but the room will have to be open then.
BAUBLE48> Correct
1CAVERAT> Royce, if no one will be chatting during the actual viewing, does
it matter if anyone comes in the room?
.Royce3> Probably not, cave.
.Royce3> I guess you are talking about the after chat, Cave.
DORCASQ> I guess not
1CAVERAT> right, the after chat
BAUBLE48> So far we only have two of us to try this
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DORCASQ> I wonder where everyone else is tonight?
BAUBLE48> Where is
.Royce3> Hi Kolta, welcome.
BAUBLE48> Here K is
DORCASQ> Ahhh there is Kolta!
1CAVERAT> hi kolta
.Kolta> I had a terrible time trying to get in tonight
.Royce3> Cave you are going to have to repeat all of this for Kolta and
others who come in.
1CAVERAT> I will post a statement just before I leave to go out
DORCASQ> Can you paste it in, Cave?
1CAVERAT> yes
.Kolta> Royce, I am not going to stay for the after chat
.Royce3> I just sent an ICQ note to Jeff. i'm not sure what he is doing.
Probably he is talking on the LOVE CONNECTION.
BAUBLE48> K I will meditate from 7 to 7:45 and come back on
.Kolta> Sorry
.Royce3> ok, kolta
DORCASQ> Plans have changed, K, the viewing is going to start around 7:00
BAUBLE48> K Will you participate at all
.Kolta> I have minor things to do yet like income taxes
BAUBLE48> We know all about thatt!!!
DORCASQ> We told everyone last night that it would be during the afterchat at
7:30
.Royce3> Don't worry about the taxes, Kolta, I will write you a note.
DORCASQ> I think that is when Watanna plans to come on.
.Kolta> How long will it go?
1CAVERAT> yes we do, pay homage to uncle sap
1CAVERAT> It will continue past 7:30 8:00
DORCASQ> uncle sap???hahah
1CAVERAT> that is not a typo!!
BAUBLE48> If you get something in 5 minutes K then you are done I guess
.Kolta> Well, I am afraid that Uncle Sap takes priority
1CAVERAT> thats why I left it open as to time since someone may get something
in a few minutes or it could take some time
.Kolta> I cannot always get something in 5 minutes
DORCASQ> It takes me about 15 min. to clear all the garbage out of my head!
.Kolta> I am running behind on other things as is
BAUBLE48> That all the garbage you have in there!!???
1CAVERAT> I will be at a location which has several outstanding features. If
you pick up on anything, please describe your impressions, even if you don't
have a definite object in view. Impressions such as
1CAVERAT> tall, short, dark, light and such may be descriptive and could be
important.
BAUBLE48> OK
1CAVERAT> Also, there may be some other sensory impressions being conveyed so
anything else such as sound, smell, or even emotional impressions regarding
my location should be commented on as well.
1CAVERAT> Good luck!!
1CAVERAT> Any questions ??
BAUBLE48> NO
DORCASQ> Where are you going?
.Royce3> This message will self destruct in 15 seconds.
BAUBLE48> Good D
1CAVERAT> out!!
.Kolta> Dor :-)
DORCASQ> See ya!
BAUBLE48> Guess it's just you and me then Dorcas
DORCASQ> I guess Royce will have to tell everyone what to do after Cave
leaves.
1CAVERAT> The link will remain active while I travel, I just won't see
anything posted till I set up remote
1CAVERAT> Is anyone logging the afterchat?
BAUBLE48> Royce may be talking to himself
.Royce3> I always talk to myself.
DORCASQ> Then you will be able to hear us if we talk about you, Cave?
.Royce3> I can continue to log after the chat.
DORCASQ> He is the only one who listens.
1CAVERAT> only in the log
.Royce3> However, I hope I actually get a log.
.Kolta> Just as long as you do not answer yourself Royce
1CAVERAT> Will the afterchat be logged??
.Royce3> I have been conducting very nice conversations with myself.
DORCASQ> If Royce can get a log - he has been having problems.
.Royce3> I said yes
1CAVERAT> sorry, I didn't see the reply
.Royce3> I am logging; however, as Dorcasq suggests, I have had some recent
problems getting logs. Hopefully that won't be the case tonight.
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.jefflove> hello
.Royce3> Hi Jeff Love
DORCASQ> I will leave my computer on too.
1CAVERAT> I'm going to attempt to log my remote as a backup just in case
.Royce3> Jeff, do you want to participate in the remote viewing experiment,
or do you want to keep me company?
.Kolta> Jeff??????
1CAVERAT> OK, guys, if no questions, I'm going to leave now. Back in about
20 minutes on remote
.Royce3> ok
BAUBLE48> Bye
.Royce3> We will see you soon.
1CAVERAT> hope so!!
DORCASQ> Bye
1CAVERAT> FDT czx
DORCASQ> It is going to work out better it looks like, starting early -
nobody here anyway.
.Royce3> Would anyone like to address any of these matters? Is everyone clear
on what is to happen?
DORCASQ> Clear as mud here!
DORCASQ> That's about as clear as anything gets for me.
.Kolta> Did Jeff disappear?
.Royce3> Jeff, are you out there?
.jefflove> i shall tell you shortly
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.Royce3> Hello Satellite8, welcome
.Satellite8> - signed off -
DORCASQ> Hi Sat
.Kolta> You mean tell us if you disappeared??????
.Kolta> Jeff
DORCASQ> ?????
.Royce3> Sat didn't stay long, did she?
DORCASQ> No!
BAUBLE48> I think I am going to have paper and pencil with me to write my
impressions down or draw pictures
DORCASQ> Me to Bauble
.Kolta> I asked if Jeff disappeared. He said he would tell us shortly
DORCASQ> I know, K
BAUBLE48> Bet you'll be good at this D
.Royce3> Dorcasq, did you send Sat a mean spirited "flash" note?
.Royce3> Geeeee.
DORCASQ> Yes, Royce, I always do!
.Royce3> I figured.
.Kolta> Maybe Sat was just bumped
DORCASQ> I do that to everyone when they come in - didn't you know that?
.Royce3> There have been rumors about that, Dorq
DORCASQ> Why do you think nobody comes back?
BAUBLE48> Can't take tests
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.Royce3> Hi Dimitrik, welcome.
DIMITRIK> hi
.Royce3> Dimitrik, we are preparing to hold a remote viewing experiment today.
DIMITRIK> what exactly is that?
.Royce3> We have a remote transmission coming from parts unknown. At around
7 we will try to determine where our remote contact is via a sort of
telepathy.
.Royce3> We have no idea about what the results will be.
DORCASQ> Do you want to try it, Dimi?
DIMITRIK> No thanks
DORCASQ> awww, why not?
.Royce3> oK, you are welcome to just watch.
.Royce3> Behave, dorcasq
DORCASQ> There's not going to be much to watch.
BAUBLE48> Watch That's what we are to do!!
.Kolta> I thought Dor was behaving
.Royce3> We are all part of history Dorcasq. Geeeeee, that sounds good!
DORCASQ> Yea, people can't watch us watching.
DORCASQ> So did I, Kolta, thanks!
.Royce3> No wonder new people always leave.
.Royce3> Damn.
DIMITRIK> What do you all talk about here?
.Royce3> For the past two nights we have been talking about remote
viewing--the paranormal.
.Royce3> On other occasions, we talk about UFOs
BAUBLE48> Or spiritual
.Royce3> Yes, well, that also.
DORCASQ> What topics are you interested in, Dinitrik?
DORCASQ> sorry Dimitrik not n
DIMITRIK> Mainly UFOs but I'm not a huge follower of what's going on, I just
believe in them and it interests me.
DIMITRIK> to make it simpler just call me dm
DORCASQ> Ok, dm
.Royce3> Well, this is a group of "true believers."
.Kolta> Have you ever seen any UFOs, Dimitrik?
DIMITRIK> my sister said she saw something in the sky once but I got there
too late
.Kolta> - signed off -
BAUBLE48> I've never seen any UFO's
DORCASQ> What part of the world are you from dm?
.Royce3> Kolta, must be having technical troubles.
BAUBLE48> again
DORCASQ> Most of us here right now are in PA
BAUBLE48> BRB
DIMITRIK> I'm in London, UK
DORCASQ> Ohhh
DORCASQ> We get quite a lot of people from there, DM
.jefflove> - signed off -
.Royce3> DM has been with us before, I think.
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DIMITRIK> I don't think so
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.Royce3> ok
.jefflove> - signed off -
DORCASQ> Oh, maybe they are all the same person.
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DORCASQ> just kidding!
.Royce3> Well, we try to keep up with what is happening in the world of UFOs,
Dm.
.jefflove> is anyone here
DORCASQ> No Jeff
.Kolta> Yes, Jeff
.Royce3> Presently, there seems to be a bit of a lull in sightings.
DIMITRIK> so do I but university doesn't allow me the time.
.Royce3> I can appreciate that fact, DM
DORCASQ> That is a good point, DM, maybe we all have too much spare time.
.Royce3> Dm, do you follow the Art Bell show?
DIMITRIK> no I wish I had the spare time to really get in depth with certain
things.
DIMITRIK> I don't think we get it over here.
.Royce3> You can listen to Art Bell via the internet at www.artbell.com
DORCASQ> You can read our website and catch up on everything, DM.
.Royce3> The Jeff Rense show is also very good. www.sightings.com
DIMITRIK> what is your website?
.Royce3> Yes, DM by just visiting out web site and message board, you will be
able to stay abreast.
DORCASQ> There are logs of all these chats on the website too.
DORCASQ> Just click on
"webpage" on the welcome page of Delphi where you came
in.
.Royce3> Just click on the web page tag at the top of the Delphi page; it
will take you right into the web site, DM.
.Kolta> I think I hear an echo
DORCASQ> Yes, me too, K.
.Royce3> Yes, an echo. Sorry to repeat.
.jefflove> echo?
DORCASQ> This is scary...I'm starting to sound like Royce.
1CAVERAT> FDT drz
.Royce3> That is the problem with typing: you can read what someone else is
saying.
1CAVERAT> Hi all im here!!
DORCASQ> Where, Cave?
.Royce3> Very good Caverat.
.Kolta> Hi Caverat
DIMITRIK> - signed off -
1CAVERAT> HERE!!
1CAVERAT> On site!!
.Royce3> Very good.
DORCASQ> See what I mean, Royce....and I was being SO NICE to Dimitrik.
.Royce3> Yeah, Dorcasq, you were being nice
1CAVERAT> Any newcomers?
.Royce3> And he didn't appreciate it.
DORCASQ> And he just left..just like that!
DORCASQ> Not even a nasty word or badbye.
.Royce3> Oh, Dorcasq chased someone away, Cave. Surprisingly, she was even
trying to be nice.
1CAVERAT> who?
.Kolta> Maybe he was bumped
.Royce3> A fellow from the UK
DORCASQ> Maybe, K.
1CAVERAT> Was he going to try the viewing?
.Royce3> Yes, he may, indeed have been bumped.
.jefflove> He may have been bumped
DORCASQ> No he didn't want to try viewing.
.Royce3> I don't think so . He said he wasn't going to try.
.Royce3> An echo again.
DORCASQ> I know...this is really scary.
1CAVERAT> It would have been a long distance for him!!
.Royce3> Yes and the remote viewing rates are high from the UK. Ha HA!
DORCASQ> Yes, that wouldn't have been fair to him.
1CAVERAT> They probably put a tax on it too!!
DORCASQ> Are you in place, Cave? Shall I try to find you now?
.Royce3> He is a student. Probably wanted to pick up girls--maybe guys.
.Kolta> It would be hard for a new person to come with the intention of
chatting then find out there is an experiment
1CAVERAT> You may begin anytime you're ready
.Kolta> I will see you all
DORCASQ> Ok - I'm going to take a couple min. break and will start. See ya
all later.
.Kolta> Next Tuesday
1CAVERAT> I will just continue to chat with whoever is online here for the
time being
.Royce3> all right, kolta
.Kolta> - signed off -
.Royce3> bye
.Royce3> Oh, well.
.jefflove> - signed off -
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1CAVERAT> I figure there's not much I can do here to make it easier for the
viewers
1CAVERAT> so I will just keep the line open for now
.Royce3> Your transmission seems to be clean, Caverat. You haven't been
bumped.
1CAVERAT> Should stay that way too!!
.Royce3> hopefully
.jefflove> There just seems to be problems with Delphi.
1CAVERAT> If i do get bumped, the puter should relogin
.Royce3> ok
1CAVERAT> its autologin is working tonite
.Royce3> So is anyone else with you, Cave?
1CAVERAT> No, I am by myself
.jefflove> Do you have a protocol posted.
.Royce3> Got the heater in the truck running?
1CAVERAT> Figured that would allow me to concentrate more on the chat and the
viewers
1CAVERAT> No, Jeff. We kind of just made this one up as we went
.jefflove> - signed off -
.Royce3> There goes jeff
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.Royce3> So do you have any interesting cases in the fire, Cave?
.Royce3> Hi Baal
.Baalzephon> Ave regis hominem sapientis, people...
1CAVERAT> Its not really a controlled experiment. More just an opportunity
for the viewers to test their own abilities
1CAVERAT> No really good cases right now
1CAVERAT> just a couple lights in the sky sort of thing
.Royce3> Baal we are in the process of running the remote viewing experiment.
Caverat is now on a remote location. If you would like to try to describe his
location, you can. But don't report your findings
.Royce3> yet. That will be done in an after chat chat.
.Baalzephon> Yes - I've done this before... Usually on the telephone with
girls I am flirting with... (really, I've done that...)
.Royce3> Is anyone in your other group working on a special case, Cave?
1CAVERAT> Things have been quiet all over. We have a couple cases, but
nothing of note
.Royce3> Yeah, that is interesting, Baal. Did you have any good success with
remote viewing them?
.Royce3> Cave, does Gordon have any special cases?
1CAVERAT> Not right now, He has basically the same info I do and he says
things are quiet too
.Baalzephon> Yes - on a couple of occasions I was able to describe places
I've never been too... (Like a bedroom with peach walls and vertical blinds
in one instance...)
1CAVERAT> There have been 2 reports of triangle objects in Pittsburgh
BAUBLE48> recently Cave?
.Royce3> Very interesting, Baal.
1CAVERAT> area, but they read like the hundreds of similar
1CAVERAT> cases we get all the time
.Royce3> Where were the triangles, Cave?
BAUBLE48> Baal Were you correct
1CAVERAT> South Park area
.Royce3> Two conversations at once! I like it that way!
BAUBLE48> And did you do this while you were on the phone talking to the
person?
.Baalzephon> Yes - I even "saw" the canopy over my friend's bed... But that
was all - since I can only look at the astral "shadow" or "presence" of what
is there... (or maybe this world is the shadow...)
BAUBLE48> Pretty good
.Baalzephon> Colours and shapes resonate strongly with me... Details are
elusive though...
BAUBLE48> Will you be viewing with us tonite BAAl
.Baalzephon> Unfortunately - I have to go home... So I will not be here...
.Baalzephon> - signed off -
BAUBLE48> Time for me to leave I'll be back at 8 PM
1CAVERAT> that was abrupt..
.Royce3> Gee, you scared Baal away, bauble
BAUBLE48> That's for sure
1CAVERAT> I thought maybe he would try to view
BAUBLE48> Bye
.Royce3> Dorcasq what did you say?
BAUBLE48> - signed off -
1CAVERAT> later. B
1CAVERAT> Royce, I think she is away from her computer
.Royce3> Well, at the moment it is just you and me, Cave.
1CAVERAT> Kinda slow when everybody's off trying to view
1CAVERAT> But thats research for you!
.Royce3> Yes, but things have been slow for awhile. I'm wondering what sort
of topics people want to talk about? I would have thought we would have had a
greater response.
.Royce3> It all puzzles me.
1CAVERAT> Hard to say about topics. I think the mood changes from time to
time
1CAVERAT> time 7:09
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.jefflove> - signed off -
.Royce3> Hey jeff welcome back.
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.Royce3> Hmmmmm
.Royce3> You seem to be having a tough night, Jeff.
1CAVERAT> If ALL started to run push, delphi would probably just collaspe
.Royce3> I don't know what you mean by Push, Caverat? Can you explain?
1CAVERAT> Thats the program that changes the protocols of the chat session
1CAVERAT> I thought I told you about it
.Royce3> Well, if you did, I'm not relating it to this situation.
.jefflove> - signed off -
1CAVERAT> It changes the way messages are sent. Rather than post it and wait
for delphi
1CAVERAT> to take the send request, it just grabs a buffer and
1CAVERAT> pushes the message on the server
1CAVERAT> Moves the priority to the head of the line so to speak
.Royce3> That is interesting. Do you think Delphi is an especially poorly run
system? It has been quite a long time since I have had severe technical
troubles. Jeff seems to be a victim every evening.
1CAVERAT> I think Delphi is suffering the same as everybody else
1CAVERAT> Just too many users!
1CAVERAT> They say the internet doubles every 100 days. I believe it
.Royce3> Well, businesses like that kind of a problem. Still, I think Delphi
has lost some people recently, at least that is the impression i get from the
host's forum.
.Royce3> People get tired of glitches.
1CAVERAT> Some are probably like me. i have a forum on here but never use it
.Royce3> I think a lot of forums are neglected. They take a lot of time.
1CAVERAT> Last time I was at mine was back when we were going to use it for
the esp test
.Royce3> Of course, some people enjoy this medium; others don't.
1CAVERAT> We know where THAT went!!
.Royce3> People want to be entertained.
1CAVERAT> Yes, I think its mostly entertainment
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1CAVERAT> Give it a few years and it will be like CB radio was a few years ago
.jefflove> hello
1CAVERAT> remeber CB radio???
1CAVERAT> hi jeff
.Royce3> CB radio still has it audience. But it is greatly reduced in size.
.jefflove> I am having difficulties with the page tonight.
.Royce3> I can see that ,Jeff.
1CAVERAT> Sure has. I used to use one, but its been years now
1CAVERAT> 7:20
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.Royce3> The linear amp crowd is still at it.
.Royce3> Hello 1andonly1
1CAVERAT> yes, thats about all you hear now
1ANDONLY1> hello all, we are back
.jefflove> Will there be an experiment tonight
1CAVERAT> can't get anyone locally
.Royce3> 1and, we are running a remote viewing experiment, which you are
welcome to participate in if you are of a mind to do so. Please don't feel
pressured, however.
1CAVERAT> Yes Jeff, its going on right now
1ANDONLY1> thanks Royce
1ANDONLY1> what are the details?
.Royce3> 1cave is at a remote location in his truck. Those participating in
the experiment are trying to determine where he is.
.Royce3> To describe the location.
1CAVERAT> and any features around here
.Royce3> We will have an extended chat tonight and continue it until 8:00 PM
EST.
.Royce3> Those participating in the experiment have logged off and are now
trying to view Caverat's surroundings.
.Royce3> That is why things are so quiet right now.
.Royce3> History in the making!!!!! HA!
1ANDONLY1> sorry we're late
1CAVERAT> it is not necessary to log off unless you need to for your
requirements
.Royce3> No problem, 1and. Better late than never.
1ANDONLY1> had to reformat the computer
.Royce3> Yes, that's true, Cave.
1CAVERAT> They chose to do so since it helps them to view
1CAVERAT> thought i better clarify that
.Royce3> yes
1ANDONLY1> fine
1CAVERAT> All we ask is you not post any impressions you may have until the
afterchat since it could influence others who join in before hand
.Royce3> 1and, did you happen to go to the Art Bell show and check out the
archived radio shows there? Charles Tart was on last night. As soon as the
chat is finished, I will try to listen to the interview
.Royce3> with Tart. It should be very good.
1ANDONLY1> no sorry I didn't
.Royce3> Well if you feel like it, give it a try. www.artbell.com
1ANDONLY1> I will
.Royce3> Art's show will be terminating toward the end of this month. I'm not
sure who will take over for him.
.Royce3> I am guessing that the new host will leave some of the old shows up
in the archives, however.
1CAVERAT> Is anyone going to continue the show?
.Royce3> The show will continue.
.jefflove> Mike Sigel
1CAVERAT> ok
.Royce3> Is that official?
.jefflove> yes
1ANDONLY1> only1 asks if there is any thing that can allow her to focus on
1cave
.jefflove> The announcement was made last night.
.Royce3> Cave, can you answer that?
DORCASQ> Hey, I'm back!
.Royce3> Welcome back, Dorcasq
DORCASQ> Had a nice nap!
.Royce3> Cave, 1and asked you a question.
1CAVERAT> Location is in SW Pa, thats all I can say for now
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.Royce3> South West Pennsylvania
1CAVERAT> I don't know what else you might have in mind
1ANDONLY1> where is Pa, as we are in London?
.Royce3> Close to the north eastern coast of the U.S.
.Royce3> About 500 miles inland.
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1CAVERAT> I am about 50 miles south of Pittsburgh
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