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ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Bauble
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Hi Royce. I think it's just you and me tonight. But, I'm not
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Tough getting in here tonight!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, indeed, that 's delphi for you.
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ROYCE3:Royce3> HI Steve.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Slow night tonight.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I just sent you an email.
STEVE6101> hi,what time is it
ROYCE3:Royce3> About 6:10
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Did you have trouble getting in tonight, Steve. I sure did.
STEVE6101> not much
ROYCE3:Royce3> 6:10 est
ROYCE3:Royce3> How is your day going?
STEVE6101> you all didn't come up the first time, it said you were here but
didn't show you on chat screen
STEVE6101> pretty good just got up
BAUBLE49:Bauble> So we may have a problem
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Do you work shifts?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, well, that makes for an unfortunate situation. I'm sure
some people simply think there's an empty room.
STEVE6101> horses got out this morning we had to find them,we did
ROYCE3:Royce3> How many horses do you have?
ROYCE3:Royce3> And do both you and Joni ride ?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> How did they get out?
STEVE6101> woek when I want between,11 and 6
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Those are my kind of hours. Night person
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Wide awake at night
ROYCE3:Royce3> I enjoy being a nocturnal animal.
STEVE6101> daughter left gate open last night ,yes we both ride 'but I had a
little riding accident 2 years ago have only ridden once since then
STEVE6101> yes its not bad ,the nightshift
BAUBLE49:Bauble> How old are your children?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Thought you were only 32 years old???
STEVE6101> when did you first get the urge?lol
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Is the 22 year old yours?
STEVE6101> step daughter since she was 9,but all mine in my heart
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Oh, OKKK
STEVE6101> joni only 4 months older than me
STEVE6101> one grandchild and one on way
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Her daughter could be her sister
BAUBLE49:Bauble> A grandma at 37/38!!!!
STEVE6101> almost they have 6 generations of woman living on her side
BAUBLE49:Bauble> You guys will still be young enough to have the energy to
enjoy and play with them
STEVE6101> no we been grandparents for 3 years come DEC 1
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That's almost unheard of any more--6 generations
STEVE6101> most of the time
STEVE6101> we did also till my great grandmother passed at 106
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That's great. Grandparents at 35
BAUBLE49:Bauble> 106!! Amazing
STEVE6101> it is,gives us time to hopefully to enjoy them all as adults also
BAUBLE49:Bauble> My healthy grandmother only made it to 95
STEVE6101> after 103 went downhill a little
STEVE6101> born 1875
BAUBLE49:Bauble> A little-that's funny
STEVE6101> her father was luetinent in confederate army
STEVE6101> ross brigade from sherman TX
BAUBLE49:Bauble> My grandmother had her first child at 15/16. None of her
kids or grandchildren or greatgrandchildren started befor 25. Others waited
til almost 40
STEVE6101> have revised that story about 6 times since I sent it to you ,
ROYCE3:Royce3> Does she have any letters written by the Confederate.
STEVE6101> I guess the world is lucky people have started having children
ROYCE3:Royce3> I recently read the diary of Mary Chestnut. It was great.
STEVE6101> no, had his revolver for many years ,all in
ROYCE3:Royce3> What happend to the gun?
STEVE6101> chisholm trail Mueseum now
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Why do you say Lucky to have children when they are older. I
think you are lucky
STEVE6101> it cause to many family fights as to who would get it
ROYCE3:Royce3> Jeff Love just sent me an ICQ message. He is having great
difficulty getting into this chat room.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Museum was smart move then
STEVE6101> I am but the population would really get out of control if the
average age was 15
ROYCE3:Royce3> Has anyone looked up records for the man. Enlistment papers
STEVE6101> I did some in the National archives in fort worth,we were trying
to trace our indian heritage
ROYCE3:Royce3> What did you come up with?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> You are part Indian?
STEVE6101> denied applications,affidavits,etc
STEVE6101> so the story goes
ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't quite follow you. Who was denied applications, etc.?
STEVE6101> we think the indian blood came into the family around 1805
STEVE6101> relatives in the 1896 roll
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Is Joni part Indian also?
ROYCE3:Royce3> What is the "roll?"
STEVE6101> probably more than I but couln't tell by looking at her,choctaw
STEVE6101> the rolls wre first taken in 1835 to register indians
STEVE6101> the last 1907
ROYCE3:Royce3> We have attended seminars held by Rainbow Eagle --a Choctaw.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Do you follow the Indian Prophecies such as the "Peace
STEVE6101> you must be able to prove linage tosomeone on those rolls
ROYCE3:Royce3> Rainbow is only half Choctaw.
ROYCE3:Royce3> On his Dad's side.
STEVE6101> no,YOU must understand that most people for the last 2 centuries
have tried to hide any such heritage
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, we are quite aware of that fact.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> White looking blacks have tried to hide theirs also
STEVE6101> our part of the family move to Kentucky well before any such role
ROYCE3:Royce3> My cousin's wife has some Indian blood on her side of the
family and she has discussed the fact that many people tried to hide their
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Probably some Germans too during WWll
STEVE6101> yes many people do
STEVE6101> it is a mess that I haven't devoted enough time to
BAUBLE49:Bauble> And that is a shame
ROYCE3:Royce3> Incidentally, for practical purposes, I think we essentially
have a private room. Despite his best efforts, Jeff has been unable to access
this room. So I guess it may be just the three of us.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't think others can get in.
STEVE6101> how fun!
ROYCE3:Royce3> Kolta would be here, if she could
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I know Kolta would be here. So there is a problem out there
in Delphi lalnd
ROYCE3:Royce3> Something about Wednesday, I guess.
STEVE6101> did he trying getting completely out then come back in
ROYCE3:Royce3> He said so.
STEVE6101> well I'm glad made it
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Royce and I both did that and still had trouble tonight
ROYCE3:Royce3> As I look at the big board, the crowd is pretty sparse for all
of the rooms.
ROYCE3:Royce3> So the system is creaking again.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Should we just call this a night?
STEVE6101> hard to keep up with technology these days
ROYCE3:Royce3> It's up to you guys.
STEVE6101> don't like my company,Bauble?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Bauble is anti-social! lol
STEVE6101> just joking
ROYCE3:Royce3> It's your after shave.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I didn't say that Kimosabe!!!
STEVE6101> my thinking exactly
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well she can't smell my after shave; I drink it strained
STEVE6101> growing a beard right now
BAUBLE49:Bauble> You'll only look older
STEVE6101> it gets real cold out there in the middle of the night
STEVE6101> I"ll never look old
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, Bauble has a point. Most of my friends who have grown
beards only succeeded in looking dilapidated.
STEVE6101> people call me sir now ,a sign of growing older ,I guess
ROYCE3:Royce3> The only time I had a beard was when I was in Nam. I had the
title of Wolf Man.
STEVE6101> I keep it cut pretty close to my face but there is some white in it
ROYCE3:Royce3> I guess that was meant as a compliment.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> You still would have been adorable, Roybe
ROYCE3:Royce3> Rub a little Grecian formula on it.
STEVE6101> I haven't had one since nineteen
STEVE6101> no I'm not that vain
STEVE6101> that alright it matches the hair down to the middle of my back
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BAUBLE49:Bauble> What does Joni think about your beard?
ROYCE3:Royce3> "Your so vain. I bet you thought this song was about you."
Remember that song?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi peace.
STEVE6101> not a pretty picture ,huh
STEVE6101> Carly simon
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Hairy Critter you are
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Hi emre
ROYCE3:Royce3> Peace, have you any UFO related experiences to share with us?
STEVE6101> yes well always had long hair as a kid but the casino business was
always an above the collar cut
STEVE6101> Hi peACE
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Yes, those people always looked neat
STEVE6101> IT WAS OK
STEVE6101> I just save money on hair cuts
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Hi everyone!
STEVE6101> and the suit all the time
ROYCE3:Royce3> How is your day going, emre?
STEVE6101> hi emre
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Bet you looked Right Smart too Steve!
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Do you have long hair now?
STEVE6101> joni thought so
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Royce thanx, just fine, and how's your day going?
STEVE6101> the beard will come off in spring
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> No ufo experience personally, but the few hours before the
BAUBLE49:Bauble> earthquake where?
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> ufo's were sighted, and there's three amateur cameras who
got it all on film thank got.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, this is a very slow day. i think there's some technical
difficulty with delphi today, emre.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> it was awesome - the sightings i mean, was on the news for
weeks, people trying to make sense of it all
ROYCE3:Royce3> Where and when did this take place, emre?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Where and When, Emri?
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> august before last, in turkey over here
ROYCE3:Royce3> What city in Turkey are you near, emre?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> They actually reported this on Telvision in Turkey?
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> We're in Ankara, so we got hit least.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> es, i mean it was unreal!
ROYCE3:Royce3> So were the UFOs apparently watching the earthquake?
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> none of the people who filmed it knew a quake was coming
STEVE6101> could you see them clearly ,emre
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Was there follow up on these reports of UFO's?
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Well, what like hundreds of people who saw this all - the
ufos were there for around 3 hours flying -
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I think he only saw them on TV, Steve
ROYCE3:Royce3> What did the UFOs look like, emre?
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> say they were like trying to tell them something - those
ROYCE3:Royce3> And how many UFOs were there?
STEVE6101> so they were trying to warn them of the earthquke?
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Bauble, unfortunately no, for the simple reason that the
country was devasteted, and it just sort of dies away, the news
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That's sort of understandabe
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> on tv, we saw around i think 20 - 25 of them. I missed it
all - i was asleep! Damn!
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I'm surprised Television would show this
ROYCE3:Royce3> Do you by any chance have a newspaper clipping of the story,
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Is Turkey government more open to UFO's than us here in the
ROYCE3:Royce3> It would be interesting to post the story on the message board
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Sure Royce, i'd be glad to scan the Turkish & translate
it. Will do this weekend and send it to this room
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That would be great, Emri!!
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Let me check if i can get a copy of that film from the
turkish news agency too.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> hold on a sec...
ROYCE3:Royce3> The year before last, Turkey hosted a very impressive
conference for UFO investigators.
STEVE6101> never recieced your e-mail ,Royce
STEVE6101> from all over royce
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, that is strange. Let me see if it bounced back to me.
STEVE6101> It can wait till later
STEVE6101> we do live in a fish bowl here ,don't we
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, I was just suggesting that we talk about your story
later. So far as I can see, the message was delivered to you.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> ok, i'm back. Just checked to see who we all can contact
for copy of film. no prob
BAUBLE49:Bauble> You can say that again, Steve--fishbowl
STEVE6101> yes you guppy
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Nothing was reported here about that sighting, Emri
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Royce, you're kidding! Man i live here and didn't know of
STEVE6101> we think that we are probably the most informed public ,but are we?
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Not on the UFO subject!!
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> well, let me get the film and news articles together and
send them to you all.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Thanks Emri!!
STEVE6101> but what other subject?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, well, it was one of the most elaborate UFO conferences
ever held anywhere. CNI News, not to be confused with CNN, did a rather nice
story about the conference shortly after it was held.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> and maybe you can get the coverage it needs over there in
the west for people.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> no prob.
STEVE6101> many thanks Emre
BAUBLE49:Bauble> Maybe we don't really want to know, Steve
STEVE6101> I do
BAUBLE49:Bauble> A lot is hidden I would guess
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, I don't think the coverage about UFOs by the mainstream
press is good anywhere.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> Wow, i'll keep my ears perked from now on. Actually no one
- including me - was all that interested this this sighting
STEVE6101> how else can a person make good decisions with out knowledge
BAUBLE49:Bauble> I meant we wouldn't really want to know just how much is
hidden from us
STEVE6101> is it common in Turkey?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, I'm surprised that you weren't interested, Emre. I mean
you are here with us talking about UFOs.
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> the government here and the people are not only open and
tolerant about such things, but i think ummmm
STEVE6101> probably make us heave
PEACEFREEDOM:emre> less biased than many a western folk
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, you may be right, Emre.
BAUBLE49:Bauble> That's interesting, Em
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.emre> stuff like that... Hey, i'm agnostic, and don't know the wording
exactly, let me get my man to ask that professor of theology to send you his
.Bauble> TThe religion part would be a topic in and of itself!!
.emre> › bet it'll make interesting reading if nothing else!
.Royce3> I'm sure it will make interesting reading, Emre.
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.Royce3> Hello Soaringone, welcome.
.Kolta> Hi Soaring
.Bauble> What's the difference between Moslem and Islam???
STEVE6101> hi, Soar
.Soaring Eagle> HI
.Soaring Eagle> hi
.Soaring Eagle> that is better
.Bauble> Hi Soar
.Kolta> A Moslem follows Islam
.Royce3> We have been getting a most interesting report from Emre, a citizen
of Turkey, concerning UFO sightings over there.
.Bauble> Thanks Kolta
.emre> This is cool, the chat i mean.... There was an astronaut here a few
years ago from the states looking for Noah's Ark
STEVE6101> any luck
.emre> Wish he'd looked into ufos rather
.Bauble> Edgar Mitchell, maybe???
.Soaring Eagle> Noahs ark??? wouldnt noah have cut it up for fire wood?
.emre> Bauble, Islam's the religion, Muslim a believer - hey I2m agnostic by
.Bauble> funny Soar
.Royce3> Edgar Mitchell is in to metaphysics.
STEVE6101> we have some moslems that live behind us ,the bulit the most
beatiful pryer house
.Bauble> Is Muslim the nationality?
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.emre> No, no, not Mitchell, he was one of the first three to have stepped on
the moon - forgot his name
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.Kolta> Arab is the race of people who are usually Moslems
.Bauble> Neil Armstrong, maybe??
.Royce3> Hello, Jeff, we have been getting a most interesting report from
Emre, who is a Turkish citizen, about UFO sightings over in that country.
.emre> No, it's like Christianity, and Christians. ›slam & Muslims
.Kolta> Hi Jeff
.Bauble> Thanks emre
.emre> Yes Kolta
.Bauble> Like a Christian is a Catholic or whatever??
.emre> Sort of...
.Bauble> The Hindus build beautiful Temples also, Steve
.Kolta> More like Jews are the race who follows Judaism
STEVE6101> yes I think there are also different sects in Islam
.Bauble> But that's a nationality, Kolta
.emre> Exactly Kolta! That's it
.Kolta> That is also right Bauble.
.emre> yes there are
STEVE6101> the gentleman behind us is from Isreal
.Royce3> Emre do you find any significant differences between the newspapers
in your country and those in the U.S.? I have been looking at newspapers
coming from India, and their news is pretty much that
.Royce3> which originates in this country, at least in regard to national
.Kolta> Both Jews and Arabs claim Isael to be their land.
.Kolta> Both have legitimate claims. It is a very touchy issue.
.Bauble> Wasn't there a song " My Land is Your Land"...???
.Bauble> ty, Jeff
STEVE6101> that doesn't work to well here either ,Bauble
.Royce3> At least Jeff got the joke.
.Bauble> Just kidding
STEVE6101> I know
STEVE6101> I have that young sense of humor
.Kolta> Both groups can rightlfully claim Abraham as their father.
.Royce3> Emre, have you much interest in paranormal research?
.Bauble> And I don't think they'll figure it out in this millenium either,
.jefflove> Israel is heading toward chaos and anarchy
.Kolta> You're right Bauble
STEVE6101> but christ is mentioned in the Koran more than Mohammad
.Kolta> Israel needs our prayers
.Royce3> No, Kolta, they just need our money.
.Kolta> Royce, such a materialist!!!!!
.emre> Royce, since the quake, my curiosity's grown more than ever
.Bauble> and they are getting offles of it too!!!
.Bauble> oddles I mean
.Kolta> Prayers would be more effective
.Royce3> Emre, some people believe that UFOs and the paranormal are related.
That is what a lot of Europeans believe.
STEVE6101> if they could pray together
.emre> But paranormal stuff is considered a normal part of life over here
.Bauble> War isn't Christian
.Royce3> Is that a fact, Emre?
STEVE6101> war is human
.Bauble> Really Emri??!!!
.Royce3> Please tell us more about that, Emre.
.Bauble> True Steve and what a shane
.Kolta> With atomic weapons, we can use less war
.jefflove> 7:30 7:30 7:30
.Royce3> Well, we are coming to the end of our chat period.
.emre> of course! I mean wouldn't it be really idiotic to believe that we
know it all with what - 250 years of 'civilization'?
.Royce3> Emre, it has been great to have you.
.Royce3> I hope you will be in close touch with us about the story concerning
.emre> Royce, for one thing, Abraham was born and died on this land. The
unmarried Mary's tomb is here
.Bauble> Many people are seeing Ufo's or having paranormal experiences it
seems. Maybe to help us wake up to something
STEVE6101> what time is it there ,Emre
.Bauble> Thought she was buried in England or France
.emre> One of the seven wonders of the world is in Nemrut mountain, where
absolutely huge statues reamin since thousands of years not made by man
.Kolta> Interesting Emre
.Bauble> Emre you will have to come back and tell us about these statues. OK?
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.Kolta> Hi Sat.
.emre> These seem unrelated maybe, what i was trying to say is that people
here are reared more on the spiritual und well, unexplainable phenomena
.Royce3> Sat, you are late. it is now closing time.
.Satellite8> hi is delphi being weird?
.emre> ps in being tolerant and open minded
.Satellite8> i couldn't get on
.Bauble> SAT Hi We all had trouble!!!
.Royce3> We understand, Sat. Everyone has been having trouble.
.Kolta> I had problems with Delphi also Sat
.Satellite8> at least i tried
.emre> Bauble, easier is if i send you photos. And if you come visit us over
.Royce3> Emre, did you get my email address copied? We are looking forward
to your material.
.Bauble> Emre we would like to hear about the open attitude in Turkey about
all of this, also. Please come back
.Bauble> I'k love to visit Turkey!!
.emre> Sure di royce! you got mine?
.Bauble> Great chat tonight Royce!
.Royce3> No, I don't have yours, emre. What is it?
STEVE6101> thanks everyone ,talk to you later
.Royce3> Oh, yes , i do have it. Sorry
.Bauble> Goodnight Everyone.
.Royce3> Ok, everyone, thank you all for coming.
STEVE6101> - signed off -
.Satellite8> always a day late and a dollar short
.emre> Bauble, come this summer then. I'm off work for july-august. Would
love to host you - all of you
.Bauble> Yes you missed good stuff Sat
.Kolta> Poor Sat!
.Satellite8> let's have a pity party for me
.Soaring Eagle> Good night everyone
.Royce3> You were all great. And we now have some forthcoming information to
look forward to, thanks to emre.
.Bauble> I'll think about it Emre!!
.Royce3> Good night all.
.emre>. Time here is 2:30 am. Man, i slept through the ufo sightings, but am
wide awake tonite...
.Satellite8> how come the image is being changed?
.Satellite8> it used to be a spinning ufo?
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.Kolta> What image Sat?
.Bauble> Bye Bye
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.Royce3> bye all.
.Satellite8> on the start page
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