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(Logging at 16-FEB-2000 18:54) ** KOLTA just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (2 members now) ** KOLTA:Kolta> Hello!
ROYCE3:Royce3> hi KOLTA:Kolta> You got your problems fixed! ROYCE3:Royce3> I wonder who all will turn out today? Yes, about 20 minutes ago I got up to speed.
ROYCE3:Royce3> There was a problem with the server. KOLTA:Kolta> I hope better than last Wedesday ROYCE3:Royce3> I called and they said that they have had trouble all day.
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ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Dorcasq, my system is up to speed. ** BAALZEPHON just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (4 members now) ** ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello, Baalzephon, welcome. BAALZEPHON:Baalzephon> Hello...
** 1CAVERAT just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (5 members now) ** ROYCE3:Royce3> Baal, we are taking some suggestions. Are there any topics in particular you would like to see addressed here on this chat?
1CAVERAT> FDT drz ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Cave. 1CAVERAT> hi all BAALZEPHON:Baalzephon> I'm not here often enough to really think aboiut it...
ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave, we are taking suggestions, are there any particular subjects you would like to address here? ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, you are all invited to submit suggestions.
DORCASQ> Well, what would you like to suggest for tonight, Baal? BAALZEPHON:Baalzephon> I just came by to see if there was a topic or anything... ROYCE3:Royce3> yes, this is an open chat tonight.
1CAVERAT> Specific UFO cases discussed in depth BAALZEPHON:Baalzephon> - signed off - 1CAVERAT> historic as well as current cases ROYCE3:Royce3> Good bye Baal.
** XIANLI just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (5 members now) ** ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Xianli, welcome. XIANLI:xianli> hello all, ROYCE3:Royce3> This is an open chat. All subjects are fair game so long as
they pertain to the paranormal or UFOS. ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, yesterday, we started to forcus on the mind over matter question. ROYCE3:Royce3> Few of the visitors read the preliminary material.
1CAVERAT> Were making a little progress on the missing time case DORCASQ> What UFO cases could be discussed in depth, Cave? XIANLI:xianli> saw the name of this chat & it looked interesting
ROYCE3:Royce3> Tell us about that, Cave. 1CAVERAT> I went with subject and we attempted to retrace his travels ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, Xianli, did you have a chance to read the preliminary material?
XIANLI:xianli> No. Where do I find it? ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm sorry Cave, I don't mean to step on your words. 1CAVERAT> After much backtracking and retracing our trip, I think I have located
ROYCE3:Royce3> It was posted on the message board, Xianli. 1CAVERAT> the area where he went XIANLI:xianli> Okay, I'll check
ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave can you provide just a tad of info for Xianli about all of this? 1CAVERAT> Im lagging terrible tonite ** JEFFLOVE999 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (6 members now) **
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi jeff. XIANLI:xianli> hi jeff ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave is telling us about the missing time case in Western PA. ROYCE3:Royce3> He is making some progress.
** ISLEANDERS just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) ** ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Isleanders, welcome. ISLEANDERS> heyho XIANLI:xianli> Hi Isleanderes
ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave is going to bring us up to date on the missing time experiment. ROYCE3:Royce3> Go ahead, cave, please. 1CAVERAT> Hope I can hold on here 1CAVERAT> server is giving me fits
ROYCE3:Royce3> Fire away cave. 1CAVERAT> We went to the area he felt he drove to that morning ROYCE3:Royce3> On RT 79. ** LOWNDS just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (8 members now) **
ROYCE3:Royce3> or it was 70, wasn't it? 1CAVERAT> He became apprehensive as we approached the road LOWNDS:Boogieman> hello all ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi lownds, we are getting a report from caverat about a
missing time experience. 1CAVERAT> Asked that we not go back the road LOWNDS:Boogieman> oh god, still? lol 1CAVERAT> I complied with his wishes and we headed back toward Washington
ROYCE3:Royce3> Go ahead Cave. 1CAVERAT> As we entered washington, he asked that we wash the truck at a carwash 1CAVERAT> It was raining and seemed rather silly but we did it anyway
ROYCE3:Royce3> Why did he want the truck washed? ROYCE3:Royce3> Is this guy wrapped too tight? 1CAVERAT> If you recall, he also washed his car the day of the missing time event
ROYCE3:Royce3> True. DORCASQ> Then that would make sense to wash it. 1CAVERAT> Don't know what may have compelled him to do that ROYCE3:Royce3> Was he nervous? ROYCE3:Royce3> Pensive?
** BAALZEPHON just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (9 members now) ** DORCASQ> He was retracing his steps, right? ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Baal, we are talking about a missing time case.
ROYCE3:Royce3> go ahead Cave. BAALZEPHON:Baalzephon> ok... 1CAVERAT> no. Except as we were in the immediate area of the road he said he went back ROYCE3:Royce3> Went back?
1CAVERAT> yes. the road we drove to LOWNDS:Boogieman> - signed off - ** DANETTES1 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (9 members now) ** 1CAVERAT> i will post a full report on my site probably tomorrow
KOLTA:Kolta> Good ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi danettes, welcome. We are talking about a missing time case that occured in Western PA very recently. ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, please continue, Cave.
1CAVERAT> I did return to the road after I dropped him off at his home though 1CAVERAT> and I went back as far as I could ROYCE3:Royce3> You mean he got cold feet as you guys tried to retrace his trip?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Was that the sum of it? He got nervous? 1CAVERAT> it was very muddy and I was concerned about getting stuck 1CAVERAT> Yes Royce DORCASQ> On the road - the highway 79?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, what was his demeanor? Do you think the guy is having even more problems than he admits to? 1CAVERAT> I had an uneasy feeling about that area myself
KOLTA:Kolta> I suppose an experience like that is scary 1CAVERAT> no. he appears very stable. ROYCE3:Royce3> Tell us about that, Cave. What was it about the place?
DORCASQ> What kind of road was it that was muddy? ROYCE3:Royce3> How old of a guy is he? 1CAVERAT> dirt road, D 1CAVERAT> Don't have a reason for the feeling, Royce
ROYCE3:Royce3> Did you take any of your lab equipment with you to look for any sort of physical evidence? ROYCE3:Royce3> What about magnetic diviations?
1CAVERAT> I would like to take someone who possesses psychic abilities back there and see if they report anything 1CAVERAT> no physical evidence found
ROYCE3:Royce3> I have recently heard reports that before sightings there are strange activities among wild animals. 1CAVERAT> true
ROYCE3:Royce3> Some have said there's an exodus of wild animals from a given area some 24 hours before a sighting. 1CAVERAT> common reports are made
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well that is a very interesting point. KOLTA:Kolta> I have also heard that things can get real quiet, such as the animals
1CAVERAT> 24 hours may be streching it, usually its a matter of minutes ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave, some ufologists make a point to take a trusted dog with them.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, that was reported on the Rense show last night. 1CAVERAT> True ROYCE3:Royce3> Do you have a dog? 1CAVERAT> no dog
ROYCE3:Royce3> dogs are supposed to be very sensitive to the changes in an area. KOLTA:Kolta> Maybe I can get Gary to volunteer his dog
ROYCE3:Royce3> Your idea of taking a psychic into the area is a good one. ROYCE3:Royce3> I don't think Gary would like you loaning out his dog, Kolta.
1CAVERAT> yes they are. Most animals possess some second sense when it comes to paranormal events KOLTA:Kolta> I would not do it without his permission, Royce ROYCE3:Royce3> I know, Kolta.
ROYCE3:Royce3> do you take dowsing rods with you ,Cave? ** SHAMBALA1 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (10 members now) ** KOLTA:Kolta> Gary's dog has that 2nd sense
1CAVERAT> Its probably nothing. when it comes to psychic ability, I'm zero DORCASQ> She is a psychic dog. ROYCE3:Royce3> Hello, Shambala, we are talking about a missing time case that
recently occured in Western Pa. ROYCE3:Royce3> Cave, do you ever take dowsing rods? ROYCE3:Royce3> I think it might be a very good thing to do. 1CAVERAT> no, don't have the ability to use them
DORCASQ> Why dowsing rods, Royce? 1CAVERAT> never got a reaction ROYCE3:Royce3> Most people can learn to use dowsing rods. SHAMBALA1:starman> hi there ROYCE3:Royce3> Welcome starman.
KOLTA:Kolta> I just asked Gary. He would like to know more about it. He did say maybe ROYCE3:Royce3> The dowsing rods can be used to sense unusual energy patterns.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Kolta, have him join in if he wants. ROYCE3:Royce3> Psychic dowsing is a bit like remote viewing. KOLTA:Kolta> Ufortnately, he has to take his dog for a walk now
DORCASQ> I thought dowsing rods showed where water can be found. ROYCE3:Royce3> However, it is a lot easier. 1CAVERAT> they do, D ROYCE3:Royce3> Oh yes, that, too, Dorcasq.
KOLTA:Kolta> Can we set up a meeting later with Caverat ROYCE3:Royce3> But dowsing is used for a lot of other purposes. 1CAVERAT> They do this by detecting energy disturbances caused by the water
DORCASQ> I used coat hangers and they showed where water was in a basement. ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm sure we can do that, Kolta. ROYCE3:Royce3> Well there you go, Dorcasq.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Explain how they were made and used. 1CAVERAT> I will try to come to one of the group meetings and can give more details
DORCASQ> I just held out straightened out coat hangers and they moved toward the water. ROYCE3:Royce3> We recieved training in the Marines about how to use dowsing rods to find hidden tunnels.
** SATELLITE8 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (11 members now) ** ISLEANDERS> coat hangers find water thats amazing ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, but you had to cut the coat hangers into "L" shapes
didn't you? DORCASQ> Just bent them. ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Sat, we are talking about dowsing for UFO evidence. SATELLITE8:Satellite8> hi
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes and you used the short end of the "L" for a handle, right? SATELLITE8:Satellite8> hi jeff hi baalzephon DORCASQ> yes SATELLITE8:Satellite8> hi k
SATELLITE8:Satellite8> and D SATELLITE8:Satellite8> i am very tired tonight ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, tell us how you held them, Dorcasq. SHAMBALA1:starman> they have the implants now, thats helpfull
SATELLITE8:Satellite8> going to bed but please send me the log? ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, Sat. SATELLITE8:Satellite8> thank you ROYCE3:Royce3> Of course, I will.
DORCASQ> I just held them straight out in front of me and they started moving together to where the water was. ROYCE3:Royce3> Who first explained the technique to you? 1CAVERAT> Somebody's gonna have
to show me how they do it. Never works for me ROYCE3:Royce3> I might add that the watermen looking for breaks used to use them all the time. Now they used conventional metal detectors.
DORCASQ> A friend of mine bent the hangers and asked me to use them. They wouldn't work for him. BAALZEPHON:Baalzephon> - signed off - ROYCE3:Royce3> Were you looking for a break in the water line?
SATELLITE8:Satellite8> - signed off - DORCASQ> No, looking to find where water was coming into the basement. ** BOABY just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (10 members now) **
ROYCE3:Royce3> A pendulum will work too. ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Boaby, we are talking about dowsing for use in researching psycic evidence around ufos. SHAMBALA1:starman> any abductees here?
SHAMBALA1:starman> contactees? DORCASQ> I have bent spoons by holding them too, though, once. ROYCE3:Royce3> Not at the moment, shambala. Our missing time case we
discussed a few minutes ago may be a close cousin, however. BOABY> Hi Royce...Dowsing? definetly something to it. ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, tell us about that Dorcasq; I think it is all related.
SHAMBALA1:starman> i missd that KOLTA:Kolta> - signed off - ROYCE3:Royce3> I just mentioned that a pendulum will work in substitution of a dowsing rod.
DORCASQ> Holding a spoon in my hand and rubbing it lightly with my fingers - it actually bent over. BOABY> Its Mind over matter ROYCE3:Royce3> has anyone else been able to exert mind over matter?
1CAVERAT> Royce, do you have a message on your screen regarding a server too busy? ROYCE3:Royce3> No cave. SHAMBALA1:starman> i moved a lightshade once when in my late teens
DORCASQ> My message says this page cannot be displayed. ROYCE3:Royce3> Tell us about it shambala. DORCASQ> How did you do that, Starman? ROYCE3:Royce3> Give us the specifics.
SHAMBALA1:starman> too much power SHAMBALA1:starman> took 1 year to achieve ROYCE3:Royce3> Too much power? how do you mean too much power?
BOABY> I have studied some houses of Tai Chi, and its amazing what can be acheived just through breathing ** KOLTA just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (10 members now) ** ISLEANDERS> - signed off -
DORCASQ> It would be easier to just pick it up and move it, :) ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Kolta. KOLTA:Kolta> Hi! ROYCE3:Royce3> Well let's have some specifics.
SHAMBALA1:starman> i would sit onsentrating on the light daily and ritualistic ROYCE3:Royce3> This is intersting. ROYCE3:Royce3> Did you use a mantra?
ROYCE3:Royce3> I'm not sure what you mean by ritualistic. SHAMBALA1:starman> It was not ritualistic in the religious sense ROYCE3:Royce3> Ok ROYCE3:Royce3> How
SHAMBALA1:starman> just a basic routine ROYCE3:Royce3> If you give us the specifics, others can try. ROYCE3:Royce3> I think a lot of people would like to try.
SHAMBALA1:starman> i would focus and visualise the light shade moving ROYCE3:Royce3> Eyes closed when you did It? SHAMBALA1:starman> then one day it did after about a year
ROYCE3:Royce3> You tried for a year? That takes a lot of effort. Good for you. SHAMBALA1:starman> eyes fixed intensively on light shade ROYCE3:Royce3> Did you practice each day at the same time?
SHAMBALA1:starman> but used anger to achieve DORCASQ> How far did it move? ROYCE3:Royce3> Anger??? How so? SHAMBALA1:starman> same rough time ROYCE3:Royce3> How do you mean rough time?
SHAMBALA1:starman> it swayed violently ROYCE3:Royce3> You projected anger? BOABY> anger and love are the strongest emotions to channel ** MORTAC just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (10 members now) **
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Mortac we are talking about mind over matter. And dowsing. MORTAC> hi ROYCE3:Royce3> How did you utilize anger to move the lamp shade?
SHAMBALA1:starman> if i did it midday i would stick to same time but five to ten minutes each day was anough DORCASQ> Did you try it with anything else after that, Starman?
ROYCE3:Royce3> What gave you the idea to start doing this, Star? What was your motivation? BOABY> its possible to project your thoughts into peoples heads...i've had it practiced on me
SHAMBALA1:starman> getting angry as it would not move controlled emotional state ** ISLEANDERS just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (11 members now) ** ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi isleanders.
ISLEANDERS> backbackhey SHAMBALA1:starman> i stopped after that as i found it too intense MORTAC> hi islander ROYCE3:Royce3> Now what do you mean by too intense?
DORCASQ> Wow, that would just make me want to get started! ROYCE3:Royce3> Did it drain you psychically? BOABY> - signed off - SHAMBALA1:starman> who knows
MORTAC> does it also affect your heart and blood flow star? ROYCE3:Royce3> I would think that moving those objects would change the way you look at reality.
SHAMBALA1:starman> just didnt feel comfortable with something i didnt fully understand DORCASQ> But you persisted for a whole year.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Did you feel it was evil? A lot of people might have such an impression. ROYCE3:Royce3> I wouldn't but some might. SHAMBALA1:starman> NO ROYCE3:Royce3> OK
ROYCE3:Royce3> I would agree. 1CAVERAT> catch you all later, need to go join another chat at 8 SHAMBALA1:starman> neutral ROYCE3:Royce3> Very good, cave. ROYCE3:Royce3> bye cave
ROYCE3:Royce3> Who else has experience with moving objects with the power of the mind? SHAMBALA1:starman> :) 1CAVERAT> later!! KOLTA:Kolta> Bye Cave XIANLI:xianli> - signed off -
1CAVERAT> - signed off - ROYCE3:Royce3> I think the dowsing rods are the easiest way to get started. MORTAC> - signed off - ROYCE3:Royce3> One can use them to sense water, caves, treasure--the list
goes on and on. SHAMBALA1:starman> anyone remember when they were kids levetting each other with hands placed on the one person in the middle of circle? DORCASQ> Hidden treasures on the beach.
ROYCE3:Royce3> And anyone can easily start to practice with the rods. ROYCE3:Royce3> Tell us about that, Starman. ROYCE3:Royce3> I never did that as a kid.
DORCASQ> I don't recall ever doing that, Star. SHAMBALA1:starman> levetating even ROYCE3:Royce3> I have an uncle who said that they used to levitate a person in a chair.
SHAMBALA1:starman> have you heard of people levitating tables by placing there hands around it? DORCASQ> yes KOLTA:Kolta> yes
ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, that is what my uncle described. have you done that? SHAMBALA1:starman> i recall this as a child ROYCE3:Royce3> Talk about the technique.
SHAMBALA1:starman> in my case there were four of us ROYCE3:Royce3> Ok SHAMBALA1:starman> one in the middle the rest around the person
** BAALZEPHON just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (8 members now) ** ROYCE3:Royce3> yes SHAMBALA1:starman> all placed hands on shoulders of person SHAMBALA1:starman> focused thoughts
ROYCE3:Royce3> got you ROYCE3:Royce3> go ahead SHAMBALA1:starman> one would be the catalyst SHAMBALA1:starman> rds give the orders when to lift
SHAMBALA1:starman> we would concentrate our mind on lifting the girl SHAMBALA1:starman> visualise then all together lift our hands up SHAMBALA1:starman> we were only touhing with the tips of our fingers
ROYCE3:Royce3> How long would you hold the girl in the air? SHAMBALA1:starman> she was lifted above the ground 1 foot KOLTA:Kolta> Wow! DORCASQ> That is amazing!
SHAMBALA1:starman> she was light as a feather ROYCE3:Royce3> That is wild. SHAMBALA1:starman> i think the important thing here is ISLEANDERS> gotta go two guys and a girl is coming on zeeeeeyyaaa
ISLEANDERS> - signed off - SHAMBALA1:starman> i believed it was possible and didnt know it apparently WAS NOT ROYCE3:Royce3> Would you say that everyone there was a believer in the
paranormal? That would eliminate negative thoughts. DORCASQ> Yes, that is the main point, star. SHAMBALA1:starman> yes DORCASQ> I think that is why I was able to bend the spoon the first time I
tried it because SHAMBALA1:starman> we were only 6 or 7 DORCASQ> I didn't realize how almost impossible it was. KOLTA:Kolta> I think everyone would have to be a believer for it to work
ROYCE3:Royce3> Good point, Dorcasq. ROYCE3:Royce3> Anyone have thoughts about Kolta's contention? DORCASQ> Yes, I think all of the people would have to be believers.
SHAMBALA1:starman> i have never bent a spoon ROYCE3:Royce3> I have read that people have organized groups of young kids and taught them to bend spoons with their minds.
ROYCE3:Royce3> It worked quite well, since the kids didn't know that they weren't supposed to be able to do it. ROYCE3:Royce3> How many of you have had your computers go haywire seemingly
because you were in a bad mood? KOLTA:Kolta> That makes sense. Kids don't have any walls built up against it yet SHAMBALA1:starman> i remember when i was three readingahead a whole pack of
playing cards in my mothers bedroom ROYCE3:Royce3> Now that is quite a feat, starman. ROYCE3:Royce3> has anyone else been able to do that?
SHAMBALA1:starman> i didnt know you were not supossed to do that ROYCE3:Royce3> I mean here in this chatroom? DORCASQ> What did you do with the cards, star?
SHAMBALA1:starman> I cant do it now, only did it once but it stuck in my mind BAALZEPHON:Baalzephon> - signed off - DORCASQ> Reading ahead?
** GRAYONE1 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) ** SHAMBALA1:starman> discarded them, they were just playing cards ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi grayone, we are talking about mind over matter.
GRAYONE1> HiDeeHo! ROYCE3:Royce3> Have you had a lot of other psychic experiences, Star? SHAMBALA1:starman> i felt after getting half way through as if i was deciding the outcome
KOLTA:Kolta> Hi Gray DORCASQ> ok, I see now, star. GRAYONE1> Hi... mind over what matter? ROYCE3:Royce3> That is an interesting perspective.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Moving objects or affecting them simply with the power of the mind. GRAYONE1> ahha.. no UFO chat? KOLTA:Kolta> - signed off -
SHAMBALA1:starman> I appreciate how difficult this must be to accept ROYCE3:Royce3> We have been talking about how one can sense UFOs via psychic perception.
DORCASQ> No, I have no problem accepting these things. ROYCE3:Royce3> We just discussed a missing time experiment in Western PA. SHAMBALA1:starman> but i am in this chat room because i have had ufo
experiences since about 2 ROYCE3:Royce3> Maybe it was an abduction, Gray. GRAYONE1> I heard something on the news tonite about an "object" going past the window of the space shuttle. Any ideas?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hey, Gray, i didn't hear that. What are the specifics? ROYCE3:Royce3> Who reported that object? SHAMBALA1:starman> probably true, i live in scotland
ROYCE3:Royce3> I didn't know that star. late for you. ROYCE3:Royce3> The chat is late, I mean. GRAYONE1> One of the astronauts saw something streak by... whoever the female
is on board. It was on CBS radio about 4PM today. SHAMBALA1:starman> 1 am ** KOLTA just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) **
ROYCE3:Royce3> We might check the late breaking wire stories. That sort of a report usually gets censored. SHAMBALA1:starman> did this come from the astronaut?
GRAYONE1> I hope someone else heard about this... it seemed a little weird to me. They said it was a female on board. I guess she'd be a 'naut.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Gray, if you can find the story on the net, in print, please post it to our message board. SHAMBALA1:starman> delete SHAMBALA1:starman> yes and ill stick it on my website
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> - signed off - GRAYONE1> I didn't hear anything on the CBS Evening news show. ROYCE3:Royce3> A number of the astronauts have reported seeing ufos. But
after initial reports the stories are squashed. ** JEFFLOVE999:jefflove just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (7 members now) ** DORCASQ> Astronautess - female? GRAYONE1> meebee
ROYCE3:Royce3> It's a no, no to talk about UFOs at NASA, or so it seems. KOLTA:Kolta> Let's hear it for female astronauts!!!!!!! GRAYONE1> They let women in the program a long time ago.
DORCASQ> Yay, Yay GRAYONE1> Or, has that been supressed, too? ROYCE3:Royce3> Do you all remember Mitchell talking about his esp experiments on one of the moon flights? SHAMBALA1:starman> :)
GRAYONE1> Yeah, I heard something about it... DORCASQ> No, don't remember that. GRAYONE1> Seems he caused some embarassment ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, he did it with a researcher who wasn't connected with
NASA. It raised a few eyebrows. ROYCE3:Royce3> he has caused a lot of irritation. ROYCE3:Royce3> He firmly believes in ets.
GRAYONE1> If I find something about female astronauts, I'll post that, too. ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, that would be great, Gray. DORCASQ> OK ROYCE3:Royce3> Very good.
GRAYONE1> You're kidding, right? You don't remember Sally Ride? ROYCE3:Royce3> How many of you think that an airplane or rocket might be destroyed by mind over matter?
SHAMBALA1:starman> :) i remember a good book on the paranormal called Supernature but cant remember the author though,came out in the 80s GRAYONE1> Or the teacher who died on board the Challenger? Female.
ROYCE3:Royce3> My point is that all one would have to do is disrupt the onboard computers. DORCASQ> Yes, remember her, but she wasn't an astronaut was she?
SHAMBALA1:starman> i used to consentrate on satellites during my experiments KOLTA:Kolta> No, she was not GRAYONE1> The teacer, no. Sally Ride: yes. ROYCE3:Royce3> Why, star?
GRAYONE1> Ok.. I meant teacher. SHAMBALA1:starman> we in the uk had a few reports of satellites going out of orbit a few times ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, now could mind over matter be the cause?
DORCASQ> I just thought of this...I've always been afraid to watch a plane take off - afraid I might cause it some harm. SHAMBALA1:starman> military ones in particular
ROYCE3:Royce3> Star, is psychic power affected by distance? GRAYONE1> Uhmmm... why would someone want to destroy a rocket or whatever using mind over matter? GRAYONE1> Military?
ROYCE3:Royce3> Well the military would love it. SHAMBALA1:starman> i share that thought ROYCE3:Royce3> The Chinese have conducted a wide range of experiments concerning mind over matter.
GRAYONE1> Hmmm... why not go for power plants and phone systems? KOLTA:Kolta> I am flying on a plane on Sunday. Maybe I should not listen to all this. GRAYONE1> Or the Banks?
SHAMBALA1:starman> to many important transmissions ROYCE3:Royce3> Computers are fragile instruments. They would be easier to affect I would think. SHAMBALA1:starman> such as link ups with surgeons
GRAYONE1> So... lots of plane crashes of late. Mind over matter? SHAMBALA1:starman> such as link ups with surgeons doing live operations
ROYCE3:Royce3> If one can knock out a plane's computer it will often be knocked out of the sky. At least that is the case with sophisticated military craft.
** CLARYSAGE1 just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (8 members now) ** SHAMBALA1:starman> i think the russians are years ahead in the paranormal
ROYCE3:Royce3> Hi Clarysage, we are talking about mind over matter. KOLTA:Kolta> Can we talk about something else other than planes. I fly on Sunday GRAYONE1> Aha, the Sage is here!
DORCASQ> Keep thinking positive thoughts, Kolta! CLARYSAGE1> Sounds like a deep conversation! KOLTA:Kolta> ok GRAYONE1> Okay... let's ask where the UFO folks are from???
DORCASQ> I won't watch it take off. ROYCE3:Royce3> Pennsylvania SHAMBALA1:starman> ;) GRAYONE1> Billions and billions of planets? KOLTA:Kolta> Just throw positive energies at it, D
DORCASQ> OK I will, K. GRAYONE1> Traveling thru time? GRAYONE1> Mind over matter for them? ROYCE3:Royce3> I suggest all of you interested in mind over matter check out the Princeton Pear lab.
SHAMBALA1:starman> seen the hubble pics the other night sure opens the mind to ets GRAYONE1> What will we learn from Princeton?ROYCE3:Royce3> You will see how they demonstrated the power of mind over
matter. ROYCE3:Royce3> The tests are very interesting. ROYCE3:Royce3> mainline scientists working in labs. Most interesting. GRAYONE1> We're not talking downed planes again?
DORCASQ> Tell me the web address again, Royce - I couldn't find it. ROYCE3:Royce3> You will have to check the message board. KOLTA:Kolta> I hope not Gray
DORCASQ> That is the one that didn't get me into it. GRAYONE1> Couldn't pass the chance. KOLTA:Kolta> :-) GRAYONE1> Sorry, Kolta... just a joke. JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> lol KOLTA:Kolta> :-)
GRAYONE1> To where are you flying? ROYCE3:Royce3> The point is, if one can affect material objects via mental processes many of our present day theories about how energy and matter inter
relate will have to be modified. KOLTA:Kolta> Hartford, Co. GRAYONE1> From??? KOLTA:Kolta> Pittsburgh, Pa. GRAYONE1> Ahead of the big snowstorm, I trust. Or, after.
SHAMBALA1:starman> its safer to fly than to drive KOLTA:Kolta> A big snowstorm? GRAYONE1> True... above the clouds and all. ROYCE3:Royce3> Safer? Depends on who the pilot is.
KOLTA:Kolta> I know it is safer to fly CLARYSAGE1> I think we affect material objects all the time but we may not be aware of the power. ROYCE3:Royce3> Maybe on an airliner.
SHAMBALA1:starman> its probably a computer ROYCE3:Royce3> A very good point, Clarysage. DORCASQ> I think you are right, Clarysage.
GRAYONE1> Yes, big storm coming across the midwest in the next couple of days: "Winter returns with a vengence!" KOLTA:Kolta> I will take my chances
ROYCE3:Royce3> We recently discussed reality shifts. That topic had a lot to with mind over matter. DORCASQ> Mind over weather, too? GRAYONE1> Yeah... try to put down in Denver. What a drop!
ROYCE3:Royce3> What do you think, dorcasq? KOLTA:Kolta> Maybe I can stop the storm!!!!! CLARYSAGE1> The power of the mind is something that science has not even
begun to tap into. As a result, we as ordinary people, can't imagine what our full potential may be. GRAYONE1> OK by me SHAMBALA1:starman> talking of big storms anyone heard anything about the
coming global superstorm that whitley strieber and art bell are talking about? DORCASQ> I think if enough people concentrate at the same time the weather could be affected.
ROYCE3:Royce3> I heard a review of it on network TV, Star. GRAYONE1> I heard some good, some bad reviews of the book. Haven't read it. GRAYONE1> Get a kick out of the radio show, tho.
SHAMBALA1:starman> woodstock KOLTA:Kolta> Jeff, have you read the book yet? GRAYONE1> And the Web Site KOLTA:Kolta> - signed off -
ROYCE3:Royce3> It is reported that this the past decaded was the warmest in 1000 years. SHAMBALA1:starman> it rained:) manmade ROYCE3:Royce3> That should have a lot to do with unusual storms.
** KOLTA:Kolta just joined "Ufotalk-Time" (8 members now) ** ROYCE3:Royce3> The reviews of the book have been mixed. GRAYONE1> Welcome back. KOLTA:Kolta> Jeff, have you read the book yet?
SHAMBALA1:starman> anyone seen any funny flashes in the sky without thunder ? ROYCE3:Royce3> Striber and Bell handled themselves very well. GRAYONE1> Kind of rude to ask a question and run off, K.
ROYCE3:Royce3> Two bright guys. KOLTA:Kolta> Sorry :-( ROYCE3:Royce3> Even if they are showmen. DORCASQ> Jeff didn't hear you anyway, K.
GRAYONE1> But... is Art Bell serious, or just making a buck? ROYCE3:Royce3> Art is serious. But he also wants to make a buck. GRAYONE1> Ahha. JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> he is serious
ROYCE3:Royce3> He puts some rogues on. Ed Dames for instance. DORCASQ> He is serious about making a buck. KOLTA:Kolta> That is tactful, Royce ROYCE3:Royce3> Well, Art is no fool.
GRAYONE1> Umhum. ROYCE3:Royce3> he handles the opposition well. GRAYONE1> Notice how well I can imitate Art Bell???? CLARYSAGE1> - signed off - GRAYONE1> Yessssssss
DORCASQ> You sound like him. ROYCE3:Royce3> It's a gift, Gray. GRAYONE1> We grew up in different cities. DORCASQ> Well gee it is 8:30 - I have to get going now.
ROYCE3:Royce3> You don't look unlike Art. At least not from here, Gray. DORCASQ> Thanks everyone. See you next time, I hope. Bye
GRAYONE1> And went to different schools... Hey, Wait I'm just starting to get hilarious! SHAMBALA1:starman> so has anyone seen flashes in the sky they cant explain? DORCASQ> - signed off -
GRAYONE1> Get out your masking tape for my side-splitting humor... ROYCE3:Royce3> Yes, that is it for tonight folks. I want to thank you all for
coming. We will be back again next Tuesday at 6:00, Wed at 7:00 KOLTA:Kolta> I will not be here for the chats next week KOLTA:Kolta> Be away ROYCE3:Royce3> We will miss you , Kolta.
KOLTA:Kolta> Thanks SHAMBALA1:starman> ive heard a few people mention this GRAYONE1> Bye, K. ROYCE3:Royce3> I want to thank all of you new people for coming. SHAMBALA1:starman> bye all
JEFFLOVE999:jefflove> nice trip kolta ROYCE3:Royce3> You all add a lot to the chats. DANETTES1> thank you, great chat GRAYONE1> So, we're closing shop? Or, you are?
KOLTA:Kolta> I want to hear your humor Gray DANETTES1> shalom :-) ROYCE3:Royce3> I will be closing, but you folks can hang around if you like. DANETTES1> - signed off -
ROYCE3:Royce3> Take care all GRAYONE1> OK... do we lock up? ROYCE3:Royce3> - signed off - ROYCE3:Royce3> ** The moderator has left the group ** ROYCE3:Royce3> ** Group is not published **
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